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Originally Posted by Jollyriffic View Post

i thought win 2000 and xp were identical other than 2000 not using a cartoon gui.

 

Same here.

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post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by Dangur View Post

Skylake in 2015, probably not gonna happen.

I thought it was scheduled for Q2 2015? I might be wrong, that was just the impression I got!
I'm not bothered about the 14nm architecture really, so do we think I'm better going for a Haswell refresh processor soon?

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So, then get a copy now. I recommend Home Premium. Or, is there something in Professional or Ultimate that you need?

It's going to be a high-ish end gaming build so I don't want to limit myself to 16gb memory support of Home Premium, incase I want upgrade in the future (it's gonna have 16gb ram initially). The encrypting file system also interests me for securing files.

Any ideas where the best places to get hold of Win 7 would be? I'm still a little confused by OEM OSs...
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post #23 of 34
    With Windows 7, OEM simply means that once you install it on a computer, the license is permanently assigned to that motherboard and you will have to buy another license if you upgrade your motherboard in the future.  The Retail edition is different in that it can be transferred from computer to computer, as long as it is installed on only one computer at a time.  Of course, you pay extra for that privilege.
    Windows 7 Home Premium doesn't have encryption capabilities; the Professional edition supports encrypting specific files and folders, and the Ultimate edition has BitLocker for encrypting whole disk drives.
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Don't forget though, Microsoft is pretty lenient about reinstating your Windows/giving you a new key if you do switch motherboards on an OEM copy. I have received new keys for XP and 7 several times in the past, once way back with XP, simply by calling Microsoft and sitting on hold and chatting for some 2 hours. Frustrating, sure, but saving hundreds on car insurance... i mean Windows is worth it smile.gif Their verification has improved though, but if you buy OEM and then upgrade mobo, call MS and they'll fix you up. I've never been told no, except by Adobe when their Master Suite pooped out and they refused to help :\
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I thought it was scheduled for Q2 2015? I might be wrong, that was just the impression I got!
I'm not bothered about the 14nm architecture really, so do we think I'm better going for a Haswell refresh processor soon?
It's going to be a high-ish end gaming build so I don't want to limit myself to 16gb memory support of Home Premium, incase I want upgrade in the future (it's gonna have 16gb ram initially). The encrypting file system also interests me for securing files.

Any ideas where the best places to get hold of Win 7 would be? I'm still a little confused by OEM OSs...

 

Then get a copy of 7 Professional. It seems to me that you know what all the differences are, but here they are anyway just in case

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-7-whats-the-difference-between-the-editions

 

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/14422-compare-windows-7-editions.html

 

Anyway, I don't know where the full retail can be purchased. I'm seeing a lot of places carrying OEM though.

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post #26 of 34
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I thought it was scheduled for Q2 2015? I might be wrong, that was just the impression I got!
I'm not bothered about the 14nm architecture really, so do we think I'm better going for a Haswell refresh processor soon?

Considering Brodwell is coming in late 2014 or early 2015, Skylake in 2015 is unlikely.
post #27 of 34
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangur View Post

Considering Brodwell is coming in late 2014 or early 2015, Skylake in 2015 is unlikely.

Broadwell is behind schedule, yes, but I didn't realise they'd delayed Skylake due to that! My mistake
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Then get a copy of 7 Professional.

I think I'm going to now! Just depends on whether I can get hold of that or Ultimate more easily and cheaply - for some reason Professional is in higher demand.
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I know mainstream update support ends in January 2015: If I install it then, will I be able to download previously released updates? And will it install at all?

Yes and yes. Updates are available forever, or at least until MS decides they are not. Windows Update still works for Windows 98.

Mainstream support also isn't the end of security updates; that's extended support.
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Microsoft merged the Windows 9x and Windows NT lines with Windows XP.

Rather they discontinued the former and made the latter more home friendly.
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i thought win 2000 and xp were identical other than 2000 not using a cartoon gui.

They are very close, and almost everything that will run on XP will run on 2000.

2000 is NT 5.0, XP is NT 5.1, and XP x64/Server 2003 are NT 5.2.
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post #29 of 34
Intel employee here!

Here's what I can tell you about Syklake! We are currently working daily (my project team) on the skylake project.

It's planned release schedule is for early 2017. When released it will be on 10nm process, but current development is happening on the existing 14nm project. We already have fused 14nm chips active in the validation labs for testing. Once the shrink happens (Q2 of next year), revision and development will be completed for 10nm process. The new D1Cx (will be called D1D when finished) fab facility at RA in Oregon will be the first fab of ours to have 10nm process active, it's scheduled to be finished January or February of next year. The goal is to jump straight to 10nm process and skip 14nm such as was done with Tejas. This however is entirely dependent upon completion of the fab, and flying colors on performance figures from SVOS on the 10nm test chips. Expect 14nm, but don't be surprised if the first chips are on the new 10nm process.

Our validation lab computers run our own in house OS (SVOS- System Verification Operating System), but I've heard from other project teams that windows 7 is running on a few, as well as windows 8. However, I'm not software side, so I can't speak for much of that aspect.
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Great OS released (Windows XP)
Next OS sucks, everyone hates it (Windows Vista)
Great OS released (Windows 7)
Next OS sucks, everyone hates it (Windows 8)
Great OS released (Windows 9, or whatever it shall be called)
Next OS sucks, everyone hates it

Glad to see I wasn't the only person who noticed that pattern.
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