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Sony, Youtube, idiot legislators, all equally guilty.
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We need a way to throw out frivolous lawsuits before they waste a courts time. Like maybe a lawyer can be disbarred for bringing too many frivolous lawsuits or the people who want them brought get fined. Something.

This has happened where I live (montreal CA) with an individual lately, he was fined and his right to file a lawsuit is somewhat "taken away" he needs to have it examined by someone government official before he can make a lawsuit, because he had done too many fraudulous claims. If the laws give the means to do it to individuals and precedent exists, why not enforce the same thinking to companies..

Just saw the term "disbarred" in other posts, yah that must be what happened, but why do we not see this happen to companies ?
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I've never really dug into it...but I think I've heard that if YouTube gets a DMCA take down request they typically just take it down with no inquiry and then if the uploader wants it back they have to prove it shouldn't have been taken down?

So the video might be back soon...I am not defending Sony or anything, but most likely if they've been using it to show case 4k screens some one in Sony probably thinks they created the movie. In this one case I can see it being a mistake...but most of the time it is just piggish companies being pigs.
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I think most of us can agree that the main problem is Youtube's Content ID system.
     
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This is a very appropriate time for the sintel.org website to go down. We'll probably see it reappear with Sony logos all over it next week tongue.gif
    
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This same exact crap happens all the time, likely every minute of every day.
...though it usually doesn't seem to affect such well known videos.

This is a perfect example of how things simply don't always work out the way they're supposed to, or that people cannot be trusted.

I will not be boycotting Sony products over this issue, because it won't matter. YouTube sucks, and has for a long time.
It's not like the Blender Foundation had been hosting the video on their own servers, and Sony did a MegaUpload style seizure of their equipment. They just made the Third Party block their video on the same Third Party player. If you want to boycott anything over this, YouTube is where you should start.

With that said, as Sony falsely claimed it as their own content they should be held accountable. If the Sintel video was monetized, there should be data that can be averaged out for earned-income-per-day, and Sony should have to pay for every day it was inaccessible to the Public. But it's Youtube.. which is free hosting, and they don't guarantee videos being up, so it's likely not going to see any court case.

If Sony didn't file the claim, and used a third party to do it, they're still guilty.
If I paid somebody to steal something from somebody else, I know I wouldn't be innocent.
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This same exact crap happens all the time, likely every minute of every day.
...though it usually doesn't seem to affect such well known videos.

This is a perfect example of how things simply don't always work out the way they're supposed to, or that people cannot be trusted.

I will not be boycotting Sony products over this issue, because it won't matter. YouTube sucks, and has for a long time.
It's not like the Blender Foundation had been hosting the video on their own servers, and Sony did a MegaUpload style seizure of their equipment. They just made the Third Party block their video on the same Third Party player. If you want to boycott anything over this, YouTube is where you should start.

With that said, as Sony falsely claimed it as their own content they should be held accountable. If the Sintel video was monetized, there should be data that can be averaged out for earned-income-per-day, and Sony should have to pay for every day it was inaccessible to the Public. But it's Youtube.. which is free hosting, and they don't guarantee videos being up, so it's likely not going to see any court case.

If Sony didn't file the claim, and used a third party to do it, they're still guilty.
If I paid somebody to steal something from somebody else, I know I wouldn't be innocent.


You just applied logic to a real world situation, I'm afraid i am going to have to stop you right there.
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That video is soo sad at the end frown.gif
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This has happened where I live (montreal CA) with an individual lately, he was fined and his right to file a lawsuit is somewhat "taken away" he needs to have it examined by someone government official before he can make a lawsuit, because he had done too many fraudulous claims. If the laws give the means to do it to individuals and precedent exists, why not enforce the same thinking to companies..

Just saw the term "disbarred" in other posts, yah that must be what happened, but why do we not see this happen to companies ?

Because we live under fascist tyranny.
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I think most of us can agree that the main problem is Youtube's Content ID system.

Youtube's ID system is merely a symptom. The disease is a system in which we are owned by corporations that have so much power they were awarded the powers of citizens without their responsibilities in one of the worlds most fascist and tyrannical countries: the USA. Anyone thinking the EU is any different is deluding themselves, the EU is just as fascist otherwise they wouldn't be secretly discussing the TARP agreement, which will grant corporations powers over governments and individuals so their investors, shareholders, profit margins, managers and CEO's can live their feudal lifestyle while the rest suffer under their boots.

Orwell, the greatest author the world has ever seen.
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