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That is confusing. :aaskull:

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280x for sure thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

That is confusing. aaskull.gif

Not really, they are keeping the trend of having the "X" cards utilizing full shader cores for thier respective generations, while non "X" cards are using the slightly less shader core variants. Exactly like how amd used to use the xx70 and xx50 derivitaves.. whereas xx70 was the top of the line full shader core enabled versions and xx50 was missing 10-25% shader cores... of course clocks play into this aswell.. but lets keep this easy here for now wink.gif
Edited by Dandraseth - 4/6/14 at 11:11pm
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X = more shaders and/or higher clocks than non-X.
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Combined info from both Wiki and AMD's site. Someone really needs to update the Wiki with Boost clocks, and I really wish AMD's would include stock, though I can understand why you wouldn't for marketing reasons. Anyway;



Any card with the same numerical value can be crossfired, unless that's changed recently, but I doubt it.

R9-290X and non-X
R9-280X and non-X
R9-270X and non-X
and so on.

The R7-250X and lower can be run in Dual Graphics with Kaveri-based APUs depending on model.

290X, 290, 260X and maybe the 260(?) can use True Audio. All R7/R9-series cards are GCN based and can use Mantle.

There are other things to consider as well, such as ROPs, but that's all pretty advanced. It's worth noting that vandors tend to make better versions of the "X" cards. The 7970s were much better than the 7950s (Lightning anyone?), and that trend is still here with the R-series cards.

Also consider cooler. Tri-X, Vapor-X, WindForce, DirectCU, XFX's thing, they all perform differently. My 290X Windforce has no problem staying under 75C max load and I know it's absolutely starving for air due to my current case layout (which I need to fix), but that doesn't mean they'll all be fine.

Do your research, look up reviews not just of the card, but of specific aftermarket models too.

Also, actual performance may not always be as those theoretical graphs say. There are other, more hidden, bottlenecks that can cause something to not live up to it's full potential (ala 7950 vs 7970). Just another reason to read reviews. But hopefully that list should give you the differences you want to know about.


@Thracks

Unrelated, but if the 295X2 does actually come with full shaders and over 1Ghz like all the rumors say, congrats on shattering the 10 TFlop mark and cruising straight for 11 on a single PCB. thumb.gif

Suppose I'll get confirmation on the 8th. tongue.gif
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Thanks guys, you have more than answered my question!
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I think stock its:

280x > 770 > 280 => 760

And used to be overclocked it went:
280x > 770 > 280 > 760

Remember 280x = 7970 with higher clocks and 280 = 7950 with higher clocks and 770 = 680 with higher clcoks

i had both 7970's and R9 280x, 280x way better cards. had soo many problems with 7970's.... 280x's worked first try driver worked 1st try. i have 2 R9 280x Turbo Duo's, awesome cards gettinf me 120 fps on Ultra in BF4 with out OC on DX11.1
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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

I think stock its:

280x > 770 > 280 => 760

And used to be overclocked it went:
280x > 770 > 280 > 760

Remember 280x = 7970 with higher clocks and 280 = 7950 with higher clocks and 770 = 680 with higher clcoks

i had both 7970's and R9 280x, 280x way better cards. had soo many problems with 7970's.... 280x's worked first try driver worked 1st try. i have 2 R9 280x Turbo Duo's, awesome cards gettinf me 120 fps on Ultra in BF4 with out OC on DX11.1

They are the exact same card, so...

Seriously, the ONLY difference is the cooler they put on it. That's it. Same die, same memory, same VRMs, same everything.
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well its weird you know - i had giga hd7970 and had no probs whatsoever with drivers infact never with other amd cards, never go beta ! - are you talking sli? thumb.gif
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well its weird you know - i had giga hd7970 and had no probs whatsoever with drivers - are you talking sli? thumb.gif

He would certainly have problems with SLI using 7970s, yes. tongue.gif

I never understood people who have problems with video drivers. I had my 7990/7970 trifire running fine, and when I took it out I put in a temp 7870, ran fine with no driver reinstall. Then when I got the 290X, I swaped the 7870 for it again without driver reinstall. Everything still worked fine. I reinstalled the 14.2 drivers anyway just because, but I didn't need to.
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