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They are the exact same card, so...

Seriously, the ONLY difference is the cooler they put on it. That's it. Same die, same memory, same VRMs, same everything.

simular but performs way better....


lower stock clocks, different memory chips (Hynix) my 7970's had (elpida), lower bandwidth, lower fillrate, better PCB, better fans, Backplate.

gets 80 more FPS on BF4
Edited by eAT5 - 4/7/14 at 3:10am
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He would certainly have problems with SLI using 7970s, yes. tongue.gif

I never understood people who have problems with video drivers. I had my 7990/7970 trifire running fine, and when I took it out I put in a temp 7870, ran fine with no driver reinstall. Then when I got the 290X, I swaped the 7870 for it again without driver reinstall. Everything still worked fine. I reinstalled the 14.2 drivers anyway just because, but I didn't need to.

same here. 7950>7970>290>no driver reinstall.

i even had my HD7770 in my itel rig for a few hours while i put a block on my 290. i can't remember if i ever had to reinstall the driver.
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They are the exact same card, so...

Seriously, the ONLY difference is the cooler they put on it. That's it. Same die, same memory, same VRMs, same everything.

simular but performs way better....


lower stock clocks, different memory chips (Hynix) my 7970's had (elpida), lower bandwidth, lower fillrate, better PCB, better fans, Backplate.

You're really going to have to get over this placebo effect.

It is the same GPU with a different name. You could get the same effect buying a good aftermarket 7970, like a Lightning.
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He would certainly have problems with SLI using 7970s, yes. tongue.gif

I never understood people who have problems with video drivers. I had my 7990/7970 trifire running fine, and when I took it out I put in a temp 7870, ran fine with no driver reinstall. Then when I got the 290X, I swaped the 7870 for it again without driver reinstall. Everything still worked fine. I reinstalled the 14.2 drivers anyway just because, but I didn't need to.

same here. 7950>7970>290>no driver reinstall.

i even had my HD7770 in my itel rig for a few hours while i put a block on my 290. i can't remember if i ever had to reinstall the driver.

I'm so glad is isn't just me... So many people try to tell me that not only do you need to reinstall every time, but even for just a driver update you need a 3rd party driver wiper...

Yet here I am, having none of the problems they do, overwriting drivers and swapping cards and just not caring at all. rolleyes.gif
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You're really going to have to get over this placebo effect.

It is the same GPU with a different name. You could get the same effect buying a good aftermarket 7970, like a Lightning.
I'm so glad is isn't just me... So many people try to tell me that not only do you need to reinstall every time, but even for just a driver update you need a 3rd party driver wiper...

Yet here I am, having none of the problems they do, overwriting drivers and swapping cards and just not caring at all. rolleyes.gif

you know what i use to uninstall driver when updating? the driver itself. never have to go to safe mode and use driver sweeper crap.

edit: i must admit that i do have 2 HDDs imaged for both my sigs. one HDD with 14.3 (for BF4 mantle) and one with 13.11. it is just fun to play BF4 maxed with the 290 and an i7 at stock and HT off.
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you know what i use to uninstall driver when updating? the driver itself. never have to go to safe mode and use driver sweeper crap.

Same. It's really not that big a deal, but it's funny watching everyone have all these problems and recommending elaborate solutions to something that isn't that complicated.
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290 = 290 Pro
290X= 290 XT
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You're really going to have to get over this placebo effect.

It is the same GPU with a different name.

you should have said that, someone said its the same card. its not close to being the same card.... sure GPU is same, the memory can be **** or good on these depending who made it. Bit Coin had proven that.

this is what im talking about: and then the memory can be Different, i had the top 7970. now i have the Bottom 280x. which would you rather have. their both the same... so you can have the red one.... they didnt just slap a fan on, the entire board is different.




Edited by eAT5 - 4/7/14 at 1:37pm
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From what I understand and I may be wrong, is that the "X" Series of cards can allow temperatures of up to 90c (again I could be wrong) and throttle the cards performance to ensure that the temperature does not exceed 90c, allowing the card to either go much faster, or save it from being damaged.
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From what I understand and I may be wrong, is that the "X" Series of cards can allow temperatures of up to 90c (again I could be wrong) and throttle the cards performance to ensure that the temperature does not exceed 90c, allowing the card to either go much faster, or save it from being damaged.

No, that's Hawaii based cards in general. Check my post on the previous page with the spreadsheet for the differences.
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From what I understand and I may be wrong, is that the "X" Series of cards can allow temperatures of up to 90c (again I could be wrong) and throttle the cards performance to ensure that the temperature does not exceed 90c, allowing the card to either go much faster, or save it from being damaged.

my X is OC edition with more cooling and heat sync than regular X series. runs really hot unless you have good cooling..... probably depends on card manufacturer.
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