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pc in question is the sabertooth in sig below.

case cooling is accomplished by two phantek ph-f140hp's intake and one ph-f140hp exhaust, h100i is push/pull using four corsair high performance sp120's.

msi kombuster 3.3.0 running gpu core burner v2 (furry donut) sli for one hour records the max temp for gpu1 @ 88 deg c, gpu2 @ 76 deg c.

in game i've never noticed gpu1 over 80 deg c (gpu2 lags 10 to 12 deg c behind).

the sabertooth pcie layout is:
x1 #1 - creative zxr (top of mb)
x16 #1 - 780 ti (gpu #1)
x1 #2 - empty
x16 #2 - 780 ti (gpu #2)
x1 #3 - empty (but covered by video card)
x16 #3 - empty (bottom of mb)

i would like to free up space around gpu #1 by moving the zxr to the bottom x16 slot (#3). the question is does populating the 3rd x16 slot with a sound card lower the other two to x4 (they currently run at 3.0 x8)?

thanks for any help!
post #2 of 10
I am almost positive it will lower the pci-e. it is always best if possible to run the sound card in a pci 1 slot.
asus has more info on this but I read it years ago with my sabertooth X58 build that I am still running.
I had 2 gtx 580's until last year on mine and it is normal for the top card to be hotter, my sabertooth x58 only allowed about a 1/8"
between the 2 cards.
what chipset sabertooth are you running? my X58 sabertooth will run pci-e slots 1 and 2 at x16 with 2 cards in slots 1 and 2
Edited by jlhawn - 4/6/14 at 4:27pm
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thanks for your help jlhawn, my sabertooth is a z77.
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per asus specs on the z77 sabertooth with a gpu in pci-e slots 1 and 2 the cards should run at x16 the same as mine does.
if you put something in the 3rd pci-e slot it will run at x4 but your 2 gpu's will still run at x16.
if you download GPU-Z it will show if your gpu's are running at x16 which I really think they are, my sabertooth x58
works the same way.
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post #5 of 10
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thanks again for your help.

if i've read the manual correctly the only time this board will run 3.0 x16 is when slot #1 alone is populated. if you fill slots 1 & 2 the bus interface runs at 3.0 x8 for both.

gpuz currently shows: PCI-E 3.0 x16 @ x8 1.1. it shows 1.1 as the cards are throttled down while idling, it would throtle up to 3.0 if i ran gpuz's renderer.
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thanks again for your help.

if i've read the manual correctly the only time this board will run 3.0 x16 is when slot #1 alone is populated. if you fill slots 1 & 2 the bus interface runs at 3.0 x8 for both.

gpuz currently shows: PCI-E 3.0 x16 @ x8 1.1. it shows 1.1 as the cards are throttled down while idling, it would throtle up to 3.0 if i ran gpuz's renderer.

oops I forgot the pci-e x16 3.0 does that on the sabertooth z77. my pci-e x16 are 2.0 so both of mine will run at x16 with gpu's in 1 and 2. but I read that running at x8 has such a low performance loss you really won't even notice it. and with you running 2 780ti gpu's your system just rocks, even at x8.
do you run ant fan control software for your gpu's? even when I had my 2 GTX 580's they only ran max 76c and 66c while gaming, but I had msi afterburner to make my own fan profiles and both would hit max fan speed past 65c
Edited by jlhawn - 4/6/14 at 6:24pm
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post #7 of 10
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they are great cards with great cooling, but gigabyte's software doesn't come close to msi's. i use both msi afterburner and msi's kombuster, haven't bothered to mess with the fan profiles. for case and radiator fans i use akasa's 6 channel controller.

i dropped the zxr into the lower x16 slot and i don't smell anything burning at this point, so it's all good. thanks for your interest jlhawn!

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they are great cards with great cooling, but gigabyte's software doesn't come close to msi's. i use both msi afterburner and msi's kombuster, haven't bothered to mess with the fan profiles. for case and radiator fans i use akasa's 6 channel controller.

i dropped the zxr into the lower x16 slot and i don't smell anything burning at this point, so it's all good. thanks for your interest jlhawn!


those are nice gpu's you have there, thumb.gif I want a couple. your system looks clean.
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post #9 of 10
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thanks! i just built this thing. up to 3 months ago my gaming pc (which i built 10 years ago) was an agp based abit, fx-53, 6800 ultra with 4 gigs of ram. the amazing thing is it still runs great. just couldn't game with the fkr biggrin.gif
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thanks! i just built this thing. up to 3 months ago my gaming pc (which i built 10 years ago) was an agp based abit, fx-53, 6800 ultra with 4 gigs of ram. the amazing thing is it still runs great. just couldn't game with the fkr biggrin.gif

wow big improvement, you must be in heaven now, my last agp gpu was with my old Pentium 4 in 2002 I think.
my old Pentium 4 is still running great for my good friends 2 kids for school work and old games, it has xp pro on it and I gave it to them in 2004 and it runs all day every day.
click on rig builder top right of page and enter in your system specs for your sig. smile.gif
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