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Who can recommend one of those off brand flashes that will allow for max shutter speed (of the body) and 10 fps continuous shooting?

I tried using my pop up flash with my 10 yo skating and it works great in bright sunlight but the 1/250 sync speed is killing me.
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It's probably better to get an older Sony flash unit that supports high speed sync. Like the HVL F42AM or F43AM. Especially since yours has the older flash mount. You would need the shoe adapter for new ones. Which is fairly cheap at $25.

There isn't many other brands that support HSS. The Sigma EF-530 DG does, but only when directly facing your subject. Doesn't work in bounce mode. The Nissin Di700 and Di866 should work too. A bit more expensive though.
    
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Yeah, I was thinking about the 43am. Was just curious if there was something similar out there.
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Just to check, are you asking for a flash that will pop every time when you're shooting at 10FPS?
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Just to check, are you asking for a flash that will pop every time when you're shooting at 10FPS?

Yep. So far I've only found that the Sony brand flashes will do it with my camera.
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Yep. So far I've only found that the Sony brand flashes will do it with my camera.

im not even sure the f60 can do 10 frames continuous....make sure you test the f43 before you buy it....

if the f43 wont work at 10fps, i think your only choice is a studio light with a battery pack. ive gotten a 7d and an einstein to work at 7fps.

FYI, your maximum sync speed will still be 1/250 no matter what flash you use.
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im not even sure the f60 can do 10 frames continuous....make sure you test the f43 before you buy it....

if the f43 wont work at 10fps, i think your only choice is a studio light with a battery pack. ive gotten a 7d and an einstein to work at 7fps.

FYI, your maximum sync speed will still be 1/250 no matter what flash you use.

Maybe I'm reading this stuff wrong -
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The HVL-F42AM flash unit provides High-Speed Synchronization (HSS) mode that enables flash sync with shutter speeds from 1/500 to 1/4000 of a second to catch fast-moving subjects.
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The Sony HVL-F60M External Flash is designed for both photographers and videographers, with dedicated flash and a continuous LED video light. HVL-F60M delivers high-illumination output with an effective range of more than 90′ (28 m) and guide number 60. High Speed Synchronization mode enables the flash to sync with shutter speeds from 1/500 to 1/4000 of a second to catch fast-moving subjects.
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You're reading it right Sonys (like Minolta's before them) had some really high sync rates. However, (now I'm more familiar with Minolta's) sometimes you couldn't get that sync & flash refresh to allow for a full 10fps. Food for thought: you'll need good and fresh batteries to get the max refresh rate to hit that ideal goal. Not sure how much you know flashes so I hope I'm not insulting. Old and weak batterys (as well as alkalines vs lithiums, etc) make a large difference in how fast the flash comes back up to full power.

Full power is another important part of this, if you can dial down your out put, it will be easier to bring your flash back up. Say you're outside and have a good amount of ambient, you might be able to dial down to 1/2 or so which will require less juice to bring it back up. But you;ll have of trial and error. Distance to subject, ambient light, etc. will really make a difference.

But, back to your original question, - as far as I know, no third party (yet) can do that high sync of Sony / Minolta. However, if you want to save some $, you might pick up an older Minolta, like the 5600HS I think and it will do 85% of the sony for a lower price.
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Originally Posted by beldecca View Post

You're reading it right Sonys (like Minolta's before them) had some really high sync rates. However, (now I'm more familiar with Minolta's) sometimes you couldn't get that sync & flash refresh to allow for a full 10fps. Food for thought: you'll need good and fresh batteries to get the max refresh rate to hit that ideal goal. Not sure how much you know flashes so I hope I'm not insulting. Old and weak batterys (as well as alkalines vs lithiums, etc) make a large difference in how fast the flash comes back up to full power.

Full power is another important part of this, if you can dial down your out put, it will be easier to bring your flash back up. Say you're outside and have a good amount of ambient, you might be able to dial down to 1/2 or so which will require less juice to bring it back up. But you;ll have of trial and error. Distance to subject, ambient light, etc. will really make a difference.

But, back to your original question, - as far as I know, no third party (yet) can do that high sync of Sony / Minolta. However, if you want to save some $, you might pick up an older Minolta, like the 5600HS I think and it will do 85% of the sony for a lower price.

No you're fine, I'm complete noob when it comes to flash. Thanks for the info. I'm less concerned about the 10fps as I am the faster than 1/250 sync speed.
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I think you can try a 3600HS minolta and get up a high speed (that's what the HS stands for in Minolta's). Adorama has one used:
http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20563148.html
$104 isn't a bad price for you to try something without stretching too far. the 5400's can be found on eBay for down to $100ish up to $250 from BIM stores. Might check around. Still cheaper than brand new Sony. Remember Minolta lenses too - there were some really nice ones.
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