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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Evening!

I'm a new member, but have been lurking around the forums for a long time, so first of all, hi!

Apologies if starting a new thread regarding this is rude, but didn't want to treadspoil the Mionix 7000 review topic with my problem (or stupidity).

So I ordered a Mionix Avior 7000, and it arrived today. It's been a really long time since I've had a decent mouse, and for an age I've been using my trusty Microsoft Optical Basic Mouse v2.0.

I plugged in the Avior, and (long story short) I've tried it as a plug and play device, and with the two software versions - normal and beta - put out by Mionix, and it seems to track very inconsistently on my desk.

Like... I'm not saying that I'm missing headshots in Counterstrike (I don't even OWN counterstrike), it's more on the scale of getting irritated trying to select icons that aren't even trying to resist my attacks. wink.gif

If i drag it across my desk at a consistent (slow) speed, it seems to have trouble keeping up. The cursor will move fast for a bit, then slow, then fast, etc. It's like it's losing my movement a bit.

I've tried adjusting everything - LOD, polling, DPI etc. It seems worse at lower DPI's but I suspect that's just because it's easier to notice.

....

Anyway, I guess my question is this. Is my Avior cack, or is there some reason that a decent gaming mouse can't work on my desk? All my previous mice have been optical (iirc), and I've never had a problem before that I remember. The desk in question is made of wood. It's not really shiny or laminated. Just normal wood!

For now I've become so frustrated by the performance that I've switched back to the basic optical mouse, so really would appreciate some advice if someone could spare the time! smile.gif
post #2 of 20
Did you tried it with a mousepad ? smile.gif
post #3 of 20
The 3310 sensor can be picky with surfaces. It sounds like you're using your desk. I'd try to use a consistent pattern mouse pad, or if you don't have one, a piece of blank paper to see if that creates a more consistent movement.

I'm using an Avior myself with a Steelseries QCK Heavy mouse pad and the performance is very consistent.
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thank-you for your responses smile.gif

I did try a few other surfaces; a few books, a piece of white paper, some brown card.... and a Scrabble box! It worked better on some than others. The brown card was not very big, but seemed to produce a mostly reasonable response, and I think it had trouble with the white paper. I will switch back over and try all the surfaces again to see if I can give some more specific feedback.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Okay, so I had a go with a piece of plain white paper. Seemed much more consistent than the desk, but still didn't seem perfect.

The first couple of pieces of paper I tried were mildly crinkled or had been folded in half, and a piece of flatter thicker paper seems to work better (a bill in an envelope - we're at the cutting edge of testing here!... I absolutely promise I'm not taking the p*** I just can't find a mouse pad in my house!!) biggrin.gif

Then I tried a piece of very slightly glossy card - that made it go absolutely insane, and was completely unusable.

Metal flight case - the rough type - actually seems to work really well for some reason!

Brown card - inside of settlers of catan box! - seemed to work well

Coloured but completely non-glossy card (outside of settlers of catan box) - absolutely awful, nearly as bad as with the glossy card.

Coloured paper was much the same, maybe a touch better than the card.

A hardback book entitled "Modern Physical Geography" - This book had pictures of mountains on it, and a medium gloss. The mouse cursor would track well for a bit, and then flick off into the beyond randomly - I like to think it thought the mountains were real, and then panicked that I was suddenly moving faster than it had ever envisioned possible! Randomly this scored 100% on SQUAT. I think the mouse liked this book. tongue.gif

Another hardback book that I found in my girlfriends book shelf titled "Animal Psychology"?? This massive tome was navy blue (non-glossy) with some small white silhouettes of dolphins on it.... Generally the mouse seemed to work well on this surface, but it did seem to occasionally get confused by the pictures of dolphins. I don't blame it! biggrin.gif


Random SQUAT scores

Desk 10%
Paper 10%
Coloured paper 10%
Glossy-ish card 20% (but was so unusable I had to inititate the test on my desk!)
Metal flight case - 20%
Inside of settlers of catan box (brown card) - 20%
Outside of settlers of catan box (coloured non glossy card) - 30% but totally unusable
Animal Psychology book - 50%
Modern Physical Geography - 100%!
post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 
So what do you reckon - does that all sound about standard to you? Or does my mouse have issues?

If that's performing "as intended", is there a large comfy mouspad that you'd recommend to go with the Avior?

Alternatively, if I sell this mouse on, is there a gaming mouse with a decent enough sensor I could buy that is much less fussy? Would something with a 3090 perhaps suit me better for example. Or should I just go with a different mouse?

So many questions! (Sorry!)
post #7 of 20
Give it some time , check the software and other dpi settings and I should insist to try a cloth mousepad. Its too early for conclusions and tbh your mice are supposed to have one of the best if not the best available optical sensors. Soz for bad grammar not a native speaker
post #8 of 20
You MUST have a gaming CLOTH mousepad for this mouse, the sensor is very picky. It doesn't even like most hard pads, the LOD skyrockets on some of them.
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post #9 of 20
Weird coincidence, I was reading a review of the Corsair M45 a few minutes ago (which uses the same sensor), and they had problems with the tracking on the first mouse pad they used. When they changed over to a fabric based pad the performance went way up.

Here is the review that I read http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/peripherals/2014/03/19/corsair-raptor-m45-review/2

From the sounds of it, you need a decent cloth mouse pad to get the best out of the mouse and sensor. Sounds like this is a very picky sensor. I would have thought that it would be more versatile.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

You MUST have a gaming CLOTH mousepad for this mouse, the sensor is very picky. It doesn't even like most hard pads, the LOD skyrockets on some of them.

QCK+/Hayate recommended?
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