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hi everyone ...

I've been wondering about the gaming monitor, because I know that final decision in purchasing is very wide decision and send your mind to many possibilities and options :mrgreen:


so .. first monitors I learned about are the ASUS VG278HE and BenQ XL2720T

Then .. I learned about the XL2720Z which is more developed than the T series.


For a while I was attracted to 1440p OC monitors; like Qnix for 120Hz, crossover .. etc.

Fixed 60Hz: ASUS PB278Q and Dell U2713HM.


For the Dell and ASUS, there are absolutely lags in very fast FPS games like COD and battlefield. So they are out of my gaming monitor's standards range.

The Korean monitors which have the feature to OC may have issues; like, dead pixels, BLB & are not fast responsive as the ASUS and BenQ 1080p monitors.


That leave me in face with two monitors, so I have to choose one of them :?:


1. The XL2720Z is more expensive than VG278HE, faster & have the blur reduction feature to light boost, what's the difference between the two techs?

2. I want to know if XL2720Z has big advantages to the VG278HE?

3. I'm out of USA, so I understood that getting the XL2720Z with firmware V2 pre-installed is not easy.

4. I want to know what is so special about XL2720Z ?

Thanks,
Edited by itcharzherp - 4/7/14 at 3:08pm
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Mainly the ability to use monitor controlled strobing (instead of software controlled strobling, which has to be unlocked, like Lightboost), just by toggling an OSD option on, abilty to have full color, brightness and gamma control in strobe mode, 60 hz strobing for 60 fps locked games and using the screen on a console through hdmi (50 hz single strobe (the one thats used for 100+hz) apparently works on the 24"; 50 hz strobing does NOT work on the 27" (at least not on an AMD card), while 60 hz single strobing works great.

Only drawback is lack of Y axis accelerated response time on the Z monitors (Y axis accelerated response time is what makes lightboost have such low crosstalk, but at the cost of having virtually NO control over the screen image). which causes a lot of crosstalk at default settings on the 2720Z; this can minimized by 90% with the blur busters' tool, combined with a 1500 Vertical total CRU/Nvidia CP resolution tweak to make the overall image quality better than lightboost. The only thing left is that Asus' overdrive mechanism (tracefree) is definitely better than Benq's AMA (less ghosting on the Asus).

The VG278HE has better lightboost image quality than the 24" VG248QE, though (no purple lightboost tint)
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post

Mainly the ability to use monitor controlled strobing (instead of software controlled strobling, which has to be unlocked, like Lightboost), just by toggling an OSD option on, abilty to have full color, brightness and gamma control in strobe mode, 60 hz strobing for 60 fps locked games and using the screen on a console through hdmi (50 hz single strobe (the one thats used for 100+hz) apparently works on the 24"; 50 hz strobing does NOT work on the 27" (at least not on an AMD card), while 60 hz single strobing works great.

Only drawback is lack of Y axis accelerated response time on the Z monitors (Y axis accelerated response time is what makes lightboost have such low crosstalk, but at the cost of having virtually NO control over the screen image). which causes a lot of crosstalk at default settings on the 2720Z; this can minimized by 90% with the blur busters' tool, combined with a 1500 Vertical total CRU/Nvidia CP resolution tweak to make the overall image quality better than lightboost. The only thing left is that Asus' overdrive mechanism (tracefree) is definitely better than Benq's AMA (less ghosting on the Asus).

The VG278HE has better lightboost image quality than the 24" VG248QE, though (no purple lightboost tint)

1. why you mentioned 50Hz strobing? Do you mean 50 Hz during the gameplay on 24" with a range from 50Hz?



2. Because FPS drops to 30-40 FPS, or is the 50Hz referred to monitor's refresh rates, while it's constant all the time. And, FPS depends on the CPU and GPU's performance to draw the frames on the 50Hz monitor. So, how strobing connected to this process?



3. According to what I understand from your statement, that strobing is more effective on 24" monitor than 27". Why 50Hz? because most monitors work with 60Hz, so no need to strobe within 50Hz. Unless strobing is connected to another process.



4. I understood that nVidia GPU is better choice for 120Hz monitors. Right?



5. So, VG278HE is better than XL2720Z without V2 installed, or even XL2720Z in stock is better than VG278HE?



6. What's the benefit of VG278HE over VG248QE ?


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No, I mean 50 hz refresh rate, and "motion blur reduction" (aka Strobling--think of Lightboost) not working at 50 hz, but DOES work at 60 hz. Lightboost monitors only do strobing at 100, 110 and 120 hz.
Benq Z monitors can do it from 60 hz to 144 hz (144 hz doesn't work with the 1500 vertical total tweak or the 1350 VT tweak).

Currently unsure if 50 hz strobing is supported. Read the blurbusters' website on how lightboost and benq blur reduction works. Lightboost requires Nvidia drivers/3d vision installed, but can be activated by software with strobelight. Benq Z series monitors DO have lightboost but strobelight doesn't activate it, instead you can just use benq's own monitor based (toggle in the OSD) blur reduction setting, but since there is no Y axis response time compensation, you will need to do a tweak (1350 to 1500 vertical total is best) to reduce the crosstalk.

Nvidia vs ATI gpu doesn't matter for Z series monitors. Only GSYNC Requires an Nvidia card. No gsync monitors are out yet, and Gsync isn't lightboost (Ultra Low Motion Blur is what the new lightboost is called on gsync monitors, and you can only use 1 or the other at the same time, not both together).

Strobelight can turn on lightboost on any of the older lightboost monitors (not the Z series benqs) on either AMD or Nvidia cards.

VG is better than the Benq Z monitors at STOCK, yes, but use the V2 firmware and the blur reduction utility and the 1500 vertical total tweak at 100hz and 120hz refresh rates, and the Z monitors become significantly better in all ways (you have full gamma/color/brightness control in strobed mode) except ghosting/overdrive artifacts (not crosstalk), which the Asus screens have been better at for awhile.

Only benefit of the 27" VGHE over the VG248QE is, the HE doesn't have lightboost color degradation (slight purple tent) that the VG248QE does, and I believe the contrast levels are a bit better. The VG248QE looks sort of ugly in lightboost mode, but if you're coming from a beat up degraded CRT, you'd hardly notice. the 27" VG doesn't have displayport, btw.
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No, I mean 50 hz refresh rate, and "motion blur reduction" (aka Strobling--think of Lightboost) not working at 50 hz, but DOES work at 60 hz. Lightboost monitors only do strobing at 100, 110 and 120 hz.
Benq Z monitors can do it from 60 hz to 144 hz (144 hz doesn't work with the 1500 vertical total tweak or the 1350 VT tweak).

Currently unsure if 50 hz strobing is supported. Read the blurbusters' website on how lightboost and benq blur reduction works. Lightboost requires Nvidia drivers/3d vision installed, but can be activated by software with strobelight. Benq Z series monitors DO have lightboost but strobelight doesn't activate it, instead you can just use benq's own monitor based (toggle in the OSD) blur reduction setting, but since there is no Y axis response time compensation, you will need to do a tweak (1350 to 1500 vertical total is best) to reduce the crosstalk.

Nvidia vs ATI gpu doesn't matter for Z series monitors. Only GSYNC Requires an Nvidia card. No gsync monitors are out yet, and Gsync isn't lightboost (Ultra Low Motion Blur is what the new lightboost is called on gsync monitors, and you can only use 1 or the other at the same time, not both together).

Strobelight can turn on lightboost on any of the older lightboost monitors (not the Z series benqs) on either AMD or Nvidia cards.

VG is better than the Benq Z monitors at STOCK, yes, but use the V2 firmware and the blur reduction utility and the 1500 vertical total tweak at 100hz and 120hz refresh rates, and the Z monitors become significantly better in all ways (you have full gamma/color/brightness control in strobed mode) except ghosting/overdrive artifacts (not crosstalk), which the Asus screens have been better at for awhile.

Only benefit of the 27" VGHE over the VG248QE is, the HE doesn't have lightboost color degradation (slight purple tent) that the VG248QE does, and I believe the contrast levels are a bit better. The VG248QE looks sort of ugly in lightboost mode, but if you're coming from a beat up degraded CRT, you'd hardly notice. the 27" VG doesn't have displayport, btw.


Thanks for your answers ..

I guess VG27 would be good ..
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