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post #41 of 67
The video shown in the OP doesn't show a slide to unlock feature but rather a toggle feature using slide gestures.

This in todays patent court system still allows apple to keep it's "Slide-to-unlock" patent.

Nothing changes with this I'm afraid.
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It begs the question: Why, in Odin's name were they given these patents in the first place?

1. Idiots who don't understand technology work in the patent office.
2. Apple bribed corrupt workers to allow them to have it.
3. Both.
    
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1. Idiots who don't understand technology work in the patent office.
2. Apple bribed corrupt workers to allow them to have it.
3. Both.

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Yup. Do you know why a lawsuit was brought against Seagate and WD and they lost? They falsely advertised the capacity of their hard drives. Actually, they didn't. A 1TB drive from WD or Seagate does have one trillion bytes of storage. Windows, however, display measurements using base 2 prefixes, not base 10, so 1TB = 931GiB < 1TiB. That's right, because of how an operating system displays drive capacities, something drive makers have no control over, they had to pay out a settlement to their consumers.
That's wrong. Until HDD manufacturers started using base-10 numbers to exaggerate the capacities of their products, terms like megabyte, gigabyte and terabyte were always given in base-2 numbers. The stupid terms like "mebibyte," "gibibyte," and so on were only invented because HDD manufacturers misused the correct terms.

Microsoft's operating systems report the capacities correctly, because until some point in the late 1990s, everyone, including the HDD makers, were reporting the capacities in base 2. And that's the correct way of doing so. It was done that way for at least 30 years before WD and Seagate arbitrarily switched to base 10. They lost the suit on merit.

All HDD makers use base 10 now, but now it's understood that way by consumers, even if it's wrong.
     
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More examples in this video (Click to show)
And I have to say that I agree with the fact that Apple,though being a quite innovative company in general,takes credit for a lot of things that are not their own..
   
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Oh, no. You think I mean patents that are actually good things, right? No, I mean Apple suing Samsung because their phones have rounded corners. That's stifling innovation because, even though the patent is a load of crap, any competing company will have to go up against Apple's billions upon billions of dollars legal team to fight it. Now, if Apple were to patent a phone with a specially designed low-power screen, then that would be different. Patenting touchscreens in general however is idiotic at best.

Yep, I mean this is TOTALLY innovation:






Because a company that before had its own, unique design that then makes something nearly indistinguishable from a competitor's successful product is innovation. Yep.

Innovation. How dare they be stifled from doing this.
Edited by Mand12 - 4/14/14 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

1. Idiots who don't understand technology work in the patent office.
2. Apple bribed corrupt workers to allow them to have it.
3. Both.

helmetsmiley.png I see these comments all the time. It really isn't true though. My buddy's step dad was a patent officer, not exactly sure if he actually issued patents or just did other paper work but he worked in that office for 10+ years.
This guy helped me overclock an AMD K6-2 and build a Intel P2 system. When AMD Thunderbird came out he was a first adopter, raving about it. When Cable Internet was a pipe dream for the average counter-strike player (when it was a mod) He had cable internet.

I don't think it is the people but rather the Policies and Laws which govern them which are the problem. The Laws allow for this kind of patent manipulation. That is why it is all "legal".
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post #48 of 67
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Oh, no. You think I mean patents that are actually good things, right? No, I mean Apple suing Samsung because their phones have rounded corners. That's stifling innovation because, even though the patent is a load of crap, any competing company will have to go up against Apple's billions upon billions of dollars legal team to fight it. Now, if Apple were to patent a phone with a specially designed low-power screen, then that would be different. Patenting touchscreens in general however is idiotic at best.

Yep, I mean this is TOTALLY innovation:






Because a company that before had its own, unique design that then makes something nearly indistinguishable from a competitor's successful product is innovation. Yep.

Innovation. How dare they be stifled from doing this.

I don't know what you're smoking, but the Samsung phones in the "before iPhone" square look very much like many other "typical" phones from that era.

If the entire market of all products relied on being completely unique in design, we would have no choice in brand. Only one to three TV manufacturer would exist (there are only so many goddamn ways you can design a sleek flat panel TV). The same could easily apply to watchmakers, any kind of furniture, and hell, even fire extinguishers and pens. For one company to persistently harass another with lawsuits over their products "looking alike" is pretty childish competition; it's "just another thing" that brings Apple's image even lower in my eyes.

Practically every product in the world follows the same trend (tough to argue against that). When technology/overall fashion changes, pretty much every product within the same sector will share a similar design, function, feature set, price range, etc. For Apple to be so far up their rear to think they're totally unique from everyone else is just pathetic, especially when they themselves take ideas from others all the time (insert video quote of Steve Jobs here).
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I don't know what you're smoking, but the Samsung phones in the "before iPhone" square look very much like many other "typical" phones from that era.

And the iPhone doesn't. That's what innovation looks like. That's what a truly new product looks like.

Apple certainly is no saint, but this nonsense that they never do anything worthy of credit or recognition really is pretty silly.
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

I don't know what you're smoking, but the Samsung phones in the "before iPhone" square look very much like many other "typical" phones from that era.

And the iPhone doesn't. That's what innovation looks like. That's what a truly new product looks like.

Apple certainly is no saint, but this nonsense that they never do anything worthy of credit or recognition really is pretty silly.

Oh?

http://allthingsd.com/20120731/samsung-goes-public-with-excluded-evidence-to-undercut-apples-design-claims/

What I love is this evidence wasn't allowed into the court. Amazing. "The evidence was introduced far too late in the discovery process." Oh well! The state would never be able to submit "late" evidence to prove someone is guilty of murder either, right?! (Inb4 civil vs. criminal case, etc. typical remarks)

And these designs of Samsung's own prior art? Nope. Throw those out of the court too, just because.



Edit: Sorry to the mods, I'm surprised this hasn't already been deleted. This topic isn't about the Apple vs. Samsung design patent war.
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