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Rad sandwich has never performed well.... http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/06/08/hesmelaughs-radiator-sandwich-testing/

As for the orientation, I would do all intake minus the front and back fans like morencyam said. Positive pressure = better results for water cooling. xt45 is a fantastic rad. XT45 or ST30 are my two choices personally, but I would go with the ST30 over XT45 due to price, space, and performance as push pull provides marginal performance increases.

Can i just say martin did not try the config of fan > rad> shroud > fan > shroud > rad > fan so i would love it if you could show me someone who has tested that theory?

Also can someone point me to the direction of a very knowledgeable radiator person that i can private message?

I could always go dual 45's as intakes with a divider in the middle and pushing out the front and back exhausts of the case.

Would love to chat in private though as this thread feels like a lot of cross information aha

How much more information do you want? I posted links to Martin's site which has the raw data you can see. Others have posted similar facts and others have said what they believe and not backed it with any data. What more do you want...

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How much more information do you want? I posted links to Martin's site which has the raw data you can see. Others have posted similar facts and others have said what they believe and not backed it with any data. What more do you want...

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It's just going around in circles and even though you linked martins site it doesn't tell me what i want to know. Plus like others have said his site is quite a bit outdated? There is newer stuff on the market.

I've tried to ask the questions as simple as i can and it feel like my walls of text are only getting skimmed and the important info i'm asking isn't getting answered but being ignored.
post #53 of 78
Im just going to condense it:

- Rad's warm air onto your components is not a big deal.
- Air component's warm air into your rads is not a big deal.
- One rad's air into an other is poor efficiency, will almost negate your second rad.
- Rad thickness and rad's fpi count are not very important.
- Rads prefer push/pull, especially thicker rads, and high fpi rads. Could increase rad's performance by 20-30% with push/pull.
- Positive pressure for dust control if you have dust filters.

So get the thickest rads you can fit, but keep room for p/p for best performance. Fresh air to both rads, no air recycling.

So 2 thinner rads will also perform far better than a thick one, if you follow the guidelines I just presented.

Don't overthink it.
It's a hobby, not rocket science.
Have fun with it.

Cheers cheers.gif
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What he said. And you think because the data on Martin's site is old makes it invalid? Did you actually check the site and see that the products are the exact same? Sure she have a new revision such as the xspc rx series, but otherwise you will not find a better, more involved testing of all things watercooling than his site. It's one of the few places you will actually find good data, rather than a bunch of kids raving about how their h100i with noctua fans beats xxx system.

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's invalid. The design of the alphacool radiators for example hasn't changed at all.

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So the decision i have come to is....

Having 2 x 45mm radiators as intakes on both sides of the case..and the front and back will be the exhausts for all that hot air!

How does that sound to you mr bond?
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So the decision i have come to is....

Having 2 x 45mm radiators as intakes on both sides of the case..and the front and back will be the exhausts for all that hot air!

How does that sound to you mr bond?

Awesome smile.gif exactly what I would do. But you can always try different setups too.

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Hopefully it goes alright. (Like i will notice anyway haha coming from air tongue.gif )
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Worst comes to worst, the pressure builds up in.your loop and causes your house to explode.
But don't worry, that only happens once in a blue moon.
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So the decision i have come to is....

Having 2 x 45mm radiators as intakes on both sides of the case..and the front and back will be the exhausts for all that hot air!

How does that sound to you mr bond?
I'm jumping into this scrum a bit late, but if it were me I would put the two rads exhausting out instead. I'm not familiar with the configuration of the stacker's cooling chambers so this assumes it would allow enough in-flow of air to supply both rads. Did you say you're doing push + pull on both, or just push?

BTW Pepe wins the thread so far in my book, listen to him wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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Check this out. It may surprise you that thicker is not always better. I am a big fan of the Alphacool NexXxos XT45 rads, but see for your self

 

complete review;

 

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/14/360-radiator-shootout-summary/

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