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did your crystal ball tell you that too?

There was there some talk about Base clock being ~ 700MHz. I expect GTX780 SLI performance out of Titan Z. Not Ti. The only reason 295X2 can do what it can is because of water cooling.

And man you are fast.
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please teach me to make wild assumptions with no basis for my theory.

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And man you are fast.



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Either way 295X2 are not competing against each other. As far as i understand when it come to Nvidia GPU Titan is the Compute card. Not sure how Titan compares to 290X in compute applications. Titan can do CUDA but both can do OpenCL.
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There is no ideal way to do this currently.

Easiest method is probably to add the device strings to the 13.12 drivers and use those. Failing that, you'd need a hardware mod, or to wait for new drivers.
I had this NT1 or whatever it was called bios on my 290's kept the frequency locked. Of course that was the version that wouldn't ever throttle down but the was also a NT3 version which would barely ever throttle even at 1200 but would clock back.

ref 290's are too noisy if you have them crunching in the same room you sleep biggrin.gif
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That water cooler..... Reminds me of BFGTech's old watercooled GPUs.
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Red vs Green animosity is rather low in this thread and the Titan Z one, I guess the whole concept of current GPU pricing as materialized by nvidia and GPU has demoralized the crap out of everyone biggrin.gif
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That water cooler..... Reminds me of BFGTech's old watercooled GPUs.


I remember those biggrin.gif. This cooling setup has been around and done a few times. AIB cards with the "hybrid" cooler, aftermarket hybrid coolers, and the awesome diy H50 mod. This is the first reference contained water loop I believe (295x2).

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ok... this is what i got from this...

1) in 4k there isn't a dual slot gpu on the market that can close to compete...
2) if you include SLi/xfire, again, in 4k only a xfired 290x or SLi'd 780ti competes... and the 780ti suffers from 3gb of vram more often then not, so it's not really a great option
3) at lower resolutions 2 780tis will beat it... and 2 290xs will match it
4) it draws less power, is quieter and produces less heat then any SLi 780ti or xfire 290x combo out there (both under load and at idle, which is REALLY surprising)
5) it's not priced to compete against 2 r9-290xs but against 2 780tis.

So here is the deal~

For 4k it seems like the best dual slot option on the market (by far), even when you consider xfire and sli setups it's still the best option on the market for 4k, while the 780ti in SLi is a marginally better option at lower resolutions, it's also a louder option, and more power hungry option.

So i guess it matters what your display setup is; but based on the market pricing nvidia set, i'd say its priced about right... up against 2 780tis.

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2 x $550 = $1100. Also 290x doesn't throttle if you bump the fan speed a little. It's probably noisier tho, I agree.

Also the hybrid cooling solution is a fail, it's NOTHING to brag about. It just shows how not efficient these cards are. Plus it's just a cooling solution like any other, and if people justifying paying more because it's "watercooling" is stupid IMO. Plus the temps according to the reviews are bad, 70c is average for air cooling, and 70c for watercooling is a disaster. I don't even call that real watercooling temps. Also the vrm temps are over 100c. 1000$ ok, 1500$ ****, that's how I see it.

Btw not saying watercooling is stupid. Actually it's awesome, but when it's running below 50c.

dude... read the reviews. This card draws less power then 2 r9-290xs and 2 780tis... it runs cooler and quieter then either 2 r9-290xs or 780tis... by a lot. and it never throttles in any review. I'd say the hybrid cooler worked perfectly.

so why are you calling it a fail? it seems to have worked perfectly. it's quiet, it's efficient, and even if it's a little ugly, it seems to have turned out a great gpu.

I'm not saying this is a perfect card. I'm just saying it's probably the best dual chip gpu i've ever seen put on the market. and from what we're hearing about the TitanZ, that's probably unlikely to change soon. Furthermore, considering there are no good blower designs for the r9-290x, this is probably the only real option you should consider for an xfire setup. especially when you look at those outstanding frametimes in these benches. AMD really delivered here...

now i know a lot of people justified spending 1k for the titan because of "quality" i think we should be looking at this card and acknowledge that AMD delivered the "quality" for a change... and maybe... just maybe... it's worth the premium.

That said i think 1300 would have been a better price point, but i have no idea how much that cooling solution is costing them, so i'm not really gonna nitpick it too much.
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2 x $550 = $1100. Also 290x doesn't throttle if you bump the fan speed a little. It's probably noisier tho, I agree.

Also the hybrid cooling solution is a fail, it's NOTHING to brag about. It just shows how not efficient these cards are. Plus it's just a cooling solution like any other, and if people justifying paying more because it's "watercooling" is stupid IMO. Plus the temps according to the reviews are bad, 70c is average for air cooling, and 70c for watercooling is a disaster. I don't even call that real watercooling temps. Also the vrm temps are over 100c. 1000$ ok, 1500$ ****, that's how I see it.

Btw not saying watercooling is stupid. Actually it's awesome, but when it's running below 50c.

what were you specting from a basically H80 on a dual GPU? LN2 temps? this GPU being 60-70C full load is really good.
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I think this card will be more suited for ITX builds
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