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I think the Ares 2 had one central fan like this for the vrms also.

I mean on the rad,if its the usual split fin high FPI asetek rad then it should have a marked effect.
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60c coolant temp is the danger point for pumps in extended running,you are unlikely to see that happening.
Also,IIRC,the ARES came with 2 fans and this came with one? That is more likely to give the 20% rather than any rad thickness.

GPU watercooling performance has nothing to do with IHS and TIM specs,the difference is heat density,the GPU has its heat spread out,the CPU has them in very localised spots over the cores. That is the reason for the excellent watercooling performance.
First of all, push pull is pretty overrated when used on medium/low fin density radiators...

Just realized the ARES has a thicker radiator than the X2 doh.gif
That changes things, maybe Aseteks new waterblocks or pumps are making up for a decent bit of the difference, maybe a better radiator.

As far as the IHS/TIM go, there are still plenty of thermal performance gains to be had by using CPU blocks directly on the chips or replacing the stock TIM... There is a reason people do it. Yes, the thermal density is lower, but not by much.
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I think the Ares 2 had one central fan like this for the vrms also.


But as the bloke above me said, there are 2 fans on the rad.
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60c coolant temp is the danger point for pumps in extended running,you are unlikely to see that happening.
Also,IIRC,the ARES came with 2 fans and this came with one? That is more likely to give the 20% rather than any rad thickness.

GPU watercooling performance has nothing to do with IHS and TIM specs,the difference is heat density,the GPU has its heat spread out,the CPU has them in very localised spots over the cores. That is the reason for the excellent watercooling performance.
First of all, push pull is pretty overrated when used on medium/low fin density radiators...

Just realized the ARES has a thicker radiator than the X2 doh.gif
That changes things, maybe Aseteks new waterblocks or pumps are making up for a decent bit of the difference, maybe a better radiator.

As far as the IHS/TIM go, there are still plenty of thermal performance gains to be had by using CPU blocks directly on the chips or replacing the stock TIM... There is a reason people do it. Yes, the thermal density is lower, but not by much.
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I think the Ares 2 had one central fan like this for the vrms also.


But as the bloke above me said, there are 2 fans on the rad.
You are right,push/pull has little effect on low/medium density rads......except those Asetek style rads used in these AIO solutions are all high fpi. Not sure what point you meant to illustrate with the 'first of all' leading your answer.....
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Turned his review off after he said it was 8gb and made a big deal out of it lol.

i turned it off soon as i heard his voice biggrin.gif
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All this talk of CF goodness makes me wanna tear down my mining rigs and run the 280X on my X58 SLI just for the epeen...

Maybe some day when I have the time...

Don't do it. The older SLI boards are electrically different and running an AMD card on it can and usually will burn it up, depending on the card. The older SLI boards used a strict PCIE 2.0 standard that is not compatible with PCIE 2.1 that AMD adapted. I don't know if PCIE 3.0 compatibility changed the slots on the 280X, but if it's the same as the older AMD cards that were 2.1, bad news.
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Don't do it. The older SLI boards are electrically different and running an AMD card on it can and usually will burn it up, depending on the card. The older SLI boards used a strict PCIE 2.0 standard that is not compatible with PCIE 2.1 that AMD adapted. I don't know if PCIE 3.0 compatibility changed the slots on the 280X, but if it's the same as the older AMD cards that were 2.1, bad news.
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Tech prices ARE NOT supposed to double and triple like this.

It's supposed to get cheaper! This market stinks of price-fixing and conspiracy.

But we are not in the 90s or even early 00s anymore. We are in 2014. A year that to get from 28nm to 20nm or 22nm to 14nm you don't just improve photolithography, you create whole new paradigms, of multiple patterning and other hacky stuff. We can't just go Moore's Law, we struggle to do it even approximately (actually Moore's Law has totally failed for a few years now, the pretense is only held because of Multicore processors).

And let's not even go to 10nm and beyond. That's the point most scientists of the field believe conventional silicon technology will find its ultimate death (and it won't even be fast, east step will be harder and harder to achieve). Enter other technologies like graphene or graphene hybrids or even biological/chemical computers because with conventional silicon, we are at its last days. But even those are uncertain.
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Not sure what point you meant to illustrate with the 'first of all' leading your answer.....

Not sure either, probably meant to say something else...
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