Originally Posted by fateswarm
Yeah, it is good enough to move forward but with tinier steps every time. It's harder and harder to impress people. All this nonsense about "greedy NVIDIA" is myopic. They don't even see beyond their nose that AMD made a smaller chip than the GK110 right now and high costs would be the only explanation.
Single thread performance is still very important, it will never stop being important. e.g. a game can be aided by plenty of CPU cores, but, if at least a single one of them can't play "parent thread" at least as fast as the minimal FPS you need, it's gonna be limited to the FPS of that single thread.
I don't think you understand where "greedy Nvidia" comes from. It's more about them doing things like having Titan-Z not be nearly twice as fast as 295x2 yet costs twice as much. Nvidia has always gone out of their way to screw over the absolute high end to make massive profits. From 8800 Ultra to Titan, it's all the same thing, and every time, there's a few people on the internet who become warriors of their purchases online to defend their purchases.
Yes, Nvidia die size to performance is not nearly as good as AMD's. GK104 has a ton of stuff cut out from it (like it blows at most GPGPU) while Tahiti doesn't, and they're both close in game performance. GK110 and Hawaii situation is similar.
I do not think 295x2 price is that bad given performance. Yeah it is a little more than 290x crossfire, but you get the little things like the case and it comes with AIO liquid cooling. I really wouldn't be surprised if 295x2 was exactly the same type of deal Titan-Z was/is going to be, but AMD beat them to the punch and use their aggressive pricing and die size advantage to make Titan-Z irrelevant.
I'm just glad they did it before a bunch of people bought Titan-Z and we had a new generation of post purchase rationalizers on this forum.