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Exactly which is why I also said
It would be like when New Jersey shelled bunkers in the vietnam war but with longer range and a ship that is cheaper to maintain then a tricked out battleship. Really that's one of the really big things, cost. Battleships are just to damn expensive to maintain.

Hell who knows perhaps they opt to just bolt them to something like an small oil platform and tow it into place. Because really like you say the underlying ship wont matter that much.

Like this? thumb.gif


I think the US dropped this X-band platform outside China just to say "Hi there!".
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Anyone complaining about cost should look no further than the F-35 Lighting, a $400 BILLION project that still isn't even in service!
    
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Hell who knows perhaps they opt to just bolt them to something like an small oil platform and tow it into place. Because really like you say the underlying ship wont matter that much.

I wonder if you could make such a thing submersible...

I would still like to know what kind of EM emissions this gun produces, if it paints a large target on radar then a stationary platform will have to be well defended or it will quickly be overwhelmed by missile fire. Or counter fire from a mobile rail gun platform (hell, you just know other countries will be toting these things soon).
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I wonder if you could make such a thing submersible...

I would still like to know what kind of EM emissions this gun produces, if it paints a large target on radar then a stationary platform will have to be well defended or it will quickly be overwhelmed by missile fire. Or counter fire from a mobile rail gun platform (hell, you just know other countries will be toting these things soon).

WW2 Uboat style?
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Hell who knows perhaps they opt to just bolt them to something like an small oil platform and tow it into place. Because really like you say the underlying ship wont matter that much.

I wonder if you could make such a thing submersible...

I would still like to know what kind of EM emissions this gun produces, if it paints a large target on radar then a stationary platform will have to be well defended or it will quickly be overwhelmed by missile fire. Or counter fire from a mobile rail gun platform (hell, you just know other countries will be toting these things soon).

Or just mount one as a deck gun on a sub. Pop up and fire. Dive and recharge. Pop up and fire from somewhere else...scary
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Or just mount one as a deck gun on a sub. Pop up and fire. Dive and recharge. Pop up and fire from somewhere else...scary

That is essentially what subs already do when firing missiles (like the Tomahawk) except they don't need to fully surface to do so - they can fire with their deck submerged. They would also do the same thing with nukes if it came to that (and I really hope it never does).
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I was more talking about the way she went down - an explosion in her magazines. That was something we were discussing earlier in this thread - the issues with having a large amount of stored electrical charge on-board instead of conventional explosives.

She did also go down in about 3 minutes with the loss of all but three hands.

True but still like I said she was over 20 years old and even if the battle only lasted a few minutes she still put enough holes in Bismark to be tracked and killed. But really that's besides the point I was trying to make originally as I was pointing out that it would be quite unlikely for any navy to build battleships in this day and age as battleships are designed to slug it out with other ships and so have very heavy armor.

If rail guns where put on ships then it would be most likely to build them as long range artillery and the battle cruiser style ship is more suited for that type of armament hence we have battle cruisers armed with cruise missiles.

Depends on how many they can power. A battleship has the real-estate to field a lot more guns. If they can power them all...a battleship would make for much better floating artillery battery. If each ship power plant can only fire a few of these at a time then it would more sense to put them on the lighter hulls.

Though if they can be powered in great numbers they could commandeer the Disney cruise ships and put these on them for all it matters. I am relatively certain we will never see another naval battle in human history. It is too easy to know where the enemy ships are now days and stay out of range...even rail gun range. Commanders will just send in planes. Battleships have pretty much been obsolete since the middle of World War 2.

Nuclear powered battleships with railguns will breathe new life into battleship class ships. lasers and light railguns could be used to shoot down missiles and aircraft. Only kinetic weapons would be effective in ship to ship combat.
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Or just mount one as a deck gun on a sub. Pop up and fire. Dive and recharge. Pop up and fire from somewhere else...scary

I love that idea biggrin.gif So I just had to make it happen tongue.gif

I present you with RailGun sub 1944

    
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I love that idea biggrin.gif So I just had to make it happen tongue.gif

I present you with RailGun sub 1944
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I am suitably impressed with your Photoshop capabilities.
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Or just mount one as a deck gun on a sub. Pop up and fire. Dive and recharge. Pop up and fire from somewhere else...scary

That is essentially what subs already do when firing missiles (like the Tomahawk) except they don't need to fully surface to do so - they can fire with their deck submerged. They would also do the same thing with nukes if it came to that (and I really hope it never does).

It would be a bit different when it was a rail gun vrs a missile that you could defend against...or worse...both coming in at the same time. A surface vessel carrying these would be sitting ducks to a return attack because any modern military force would pick it up in a heart beat I think...once they know to be watching for them. Subs are hard to pick up even with satellites.

Now we just need the fully automatic rail gun...and Gundams.
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