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Just updated to the latest RealTemp and it's readings and the readings of my other programs including AISuite are giving me VERY different readings. AISuite, a slightly older version of Realtemp and CoreTemp are telling me it's ~64C whereas the new real temp is telling me each of the cores are running around 82-85C

     
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post #32 of 67
The Z87 version is a bit different, but AI Suite gave me all sorts of BSOD/stability problems. Plus temps are off by ~10C everywhere for whatever reason...

Try HWInfo, it shows you every sensor it can find in your system so there's no doubt about temps. One may be reading package temp, for example, while the others are reading core temps.
Edited by brucethemoose - 4/8/14 at 1:33pm
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post #33 of 67
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Ugh. I was hoping to post the CSV file but it's not very helpful looking. This is the HWInfo log BTW.

April82014.CSV 109k .CSV file

It's looking like the new Real Temp is reading from a Sensor on the cpu and the others are using a Nuvoton NCT6779D which I assume is on the motherboard, since I remember seeing some Nuvoton parts there.

Also noticing something weird when I look at the cpu sensor only in HWInfo see if you guys can find it.

CPUSensorOnly.txt 15k .txt file  

.....

Fine it says

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU Turbo:                                                                      6300.0 MHz = 63 x 100.0 MHz [Unlocked]6300 MHz [Unlocked]

Either there is something wrong with the sensor or that's the max ratio I could use under max conditions and cooling?


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post #34 of 67
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Just remounted the cpu cooler, looked like it had too much TIM on it but apparently it didn't, HWInfo reports the temperatures went up to 94C under Prime so... not quite sure what to do with it... I'll wait a little bit to see if it needs to recure or something (don't think it should need to it's MX-4), could be I removed too much off the heatsink. Whatever the reason it's been running too hot.

 

 

 


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post #35 of 67
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Sorry about the third post but I accidentally bumped the thread (earlier) when I was copy pasting my text in for the edit (I use notepad to compose and used the wrong box), this one actually contains a true status update.

Anyways... I'm fairly certain that it's definitely toast. CPU LED is lit up now. Tried the other motherboard and it wouldn't even start the fans up (though the LED's lit) when I pressed the power button.

So...

Motherboards and CPU models? I'll say my favorite so far has been my Sabertooth Z77 I'm using right now.

Edit: If you aren't already subscribed I'd appreciate it if you did so.  Thanks for your hellp and patience thus far.


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post #36 of 67
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Originally Posted by JLMS2010 View Post

I don't know if this helps. I bought my son a AsRock Z87M OC Formula & i5-4670K. I am cooling it with a Corsair A70 (air cooler). I left it on auto changed the multiplier to 44x and my temps are 68c max. I haven't fine tuned it yet, but it is stable.

Yes, with $700 you can get
MB - $200
CPU- $240 i5-4670K
Water Kit - $240 (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20837/ex-wat-261/XSPC_Raystorm_AX240_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g59c683s2174)

Total $680

I stand by this...

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Any specific reason you're recommending an i5 and a mid range motherboard? Just curious, I mean, I have ~$200 at Best Buy to spend. Do the i5's generally OC better? I ask because I will be using it for video editing and encoding and have noticed my laptop's i7 could just about keep pace with my 2500k when it was OC'ed.

 

Here are the CPU's from Best Buy I can get a price match for just about anywhere so better deal and ~$200 at Best Buy = no brainer.

 

Any reason the more expensive Raystorm or just thinking I should shoot for top of the line?

     
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post #38 of 67
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Any specific reason you're recommending an i5 and a mid range motherboard? Just curious, I mean, I have ~$200 at Best Buy to spend. Do the i5's generally OC better? I ask because I will be using it for video editing and encoding and have noticed my laptop's i7 could just about keep pace with my 2500k when it was OC'ed.

Here are the CPU's from Best Buy I can get a price match for just about anywhere so better deal and ~$200 at Best Buy = no brainer.

Any reason the more expensive Raystorm or just thinking I should shoot for top of the line?

You should get the i7 if you think you need it, but there's no reason to get a really expensive motherboard. A Gigabyte UD3H can handle a good OC as well as any other board.

Also, since you do video work, have you considered more expensive CPUs like a 3930k or 4930k?
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I have considered it but if I did so I was thinking it'd break the budget completely, I would also desperately need that water cooling setup. I was figuring $300 for the CPU and $300 for the Motherboard and say $150 for a watercooling kit. I have ~$200 at Best Buy and it looks like they have the 4930k and they'll price match. As far as the motherboard price, isn't it generally a good idea to spend more for the higher end boards for the higher quality capacitors and such? I was also thinking some might allow me to get a decent onboard sound solution since my voice is hard to capture on microphone (I was thinking of doing a let's play but it's hard to understand me because my voice either doesn't register, or has that horrid feedback sound you get when the mic squeals)

     
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I have considered it but if I did so I was thinking it'd break the budget completely, I would also desperately need that water cooling setup. I was figuring $300 for the CPU and $300 for the Motherboard and say $150 for a watercooling kit. I have ~$200 at Best Buy and it looks like they have the 4930k and they'll price match. As far as the motherboard price, isn't it generally a good idea to spend more for the higher end boards for the higher quality capacitors and such? I was also thinking some might allow me to get a decent onboard sound solution since my voice is hard to capture on microphone (I was thinking of doing a let's play but it's hard to understand me because my voice either doesn't register, or has that horrid feedback sound you get when the mic squeals)

Some cheaper boards have very good components, Sin did a good comparison here.

http://www.sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.png

The UD3H and D3H are generally the price/performance king for Z87.
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