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The speed is different for every chip you just try your best and normally you'll surprise yourself on what your old chip can do. The speed varies by person, chip and board I just prefer 4.5+. The best overclock tends to be the most efficient and the one that uses the least voltage for the frequency for example (these voltages aren't real just examples) 1.2v 4.5GHz > 1.3v 4.5Ghz or 1.6v 5GHz < 1.4v 5Ghz

Anyways I saw a 500 point boost in my 3Dmark score with the 4.8Ghz vs 4.7 so I saw it as worth it. I don't think they'll be much benefit in real world applications unless your CPU is struggling processing stuff like games when your cpu bottlenecking the graphics card otherwise you wont see a difference. It depends on what your doing.

In which my i7 is a old sandy bridge it is a little out of date ;P and i'm playing with 2x 780Ms so with the overclock the physics score in the 3Dmark benchmark is higher then the graphics score ultimately allowing my old i7 to keep up with the new cards preventing it from being a CPU bottleneck. At least from my understanding.

If you need any help overclocking I'll be happy to help and im sure there are others here who will be willing to do so.


yeah .. i think so ..

i understood the basics of your techniques for OCing ..


i think with 4670k which runs 3.4GHz at stock, is good with 770. and when i OC the CPU to 4 or 4.2 GHz, that gives more power to GPU calculations

The point i want to learn about is which speed is the CPU delivers the MAX speed for the GPU and even no further benefit at higher speeds?

so i don't OC the CPU more than what I actually need to run the GPU at perfect performance


Also, is the speeds differ with other CPU; like 4770k?


8350 is i think has different action with 770.


>>>>> these are my thoughts, i want to learn about, since i'm new to OC and didn't perform OC yet.


so ... i'm learning, and thank you.


see you later biggrin.gif
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yeah .. i think so ..

i understood the basics of your techniques for OCing ..


i think with 4670k which runs 3.4GHz at stock, is good with 770. and when i OC the CPU to 4 or 4.2 GHz, that gives more power to GPU calculations

The point i want to learn about is which speed is the CPU delivers the MAX speed for the GPU and even no further benefit at higher speeds?

so i don't OC the CPU more than what I actually need to run the GPU at perfect performance


Also, is the speeds differ with other CPU; like 4770k?


8350 is i think has different action with 770.


>>>>> these are my thoughts, i want to learn about, since i'm new to OC and didn't perform OC yet.


so ... i'm learning, and thank you.


see you later biggrin.gif


Alright ill try my best to understand, correct my if I misunderstood the questions

Based on what your saying you don't want a 770 to be bottlenecked by a 4670k therefore your looking for the lowest overclock that will allow that 770 to work at its hardest without being held back as well as that your asking if well for example your asking if 4.5ghz on a 4770k is the same as 4.5ghz on a 4670k as in if they will preform the same correct?

If I misunderstood theres alot of grammar errors in your post which I don't mind everyone makes mistakes smile.gif


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yeah .. i think so ..

i understood the basics of your techniques for OCing ..


i think with 4670k which runs 3.4GHz at stock, is good with 770. and when i OC the CPU to 4 or 4.2 GHz, that gives more power to GPU calculations

The point i want to learn about is which speed is the CPU delivers the MAX speed for the GPU and even no further benefit at higher speeds?

so i don't OC the CPU more than what I actually need to run the GPU at perfect performance


Also, is the speeds differ with other CPU; like 4770k?


8350 is i think has different action with 770.


>>>>> these are my thoughts, i want to learn about, since i'm new to OC and didn't perform OC yet.


so ... i'm learning, and thank you.


see you later biggrin.gif
Ok so if I understand right, you are asking if the 4770k will bottleneck the GTX 770 and what you have to OC it to, to get it not to. Well good news for you, the CPU at stock clocks wont bottleneck the 770 at all. You can almost get a 2nd one in there without a bottleneck (almost). If you have 2 GTX 770's, you would probably need a 4.2GHz OC, which is super easy. I suggest searching the forum for the Haswell Overclocking Guide.
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Ok so if I understand right, you are asking if the 4770k will bottleneck the GTX 770 and what you have to OC it to, to get it not to. Well good news for you, the CPU at stock clocks wont bottleneck the 770 at all. You can almost get a 2nd one in there without a bottleneck (almost). If you have 2 GTX 770's, you would probably need a 4.2GHz OC, which is super easy. I suggest searching the forum for the Haswell Overclocking Guide.


yes, that's good performance for 4670k smile.gif


>> of course searching Haswell Overclocking Guide is one of the best ways to learn about OCing thumb.gif
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Alright ill try my best to understand, correct my if I misunderstood the questions

Based on what your saying you don't want a 770 to be bottlenecked by a 4670k therefore your looking for the lowest overclock that will allow that 770 to work at its hardest without being held back as well as that your asking if well for example your asking if 4.5ghz on a 4770k is the same as 4.5ghz on a 4670k as in if they will preform the same correct?

If I misunderstood theres alot of grammar errors in your post which I don't mind everyone makes mistakes smile.gif


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Yes correct .. and the 8350 too is different at delivering the power and efficiency to the GPU

there are of course differences between these CPUs in OCing and performance >> that leads me to aspects and info I have to learn about in practice more than theoretical info wink.gif
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Alright ill try my best to understand, correct my if I misunderstood the questions

Based on what your saying you don't want a 770 to be bottlenecked by a 4670k therefore your looking for the lowest overclock that will allow that 770 to work at its hardest without being held back as well as that your asking if well for example your asking if 4.5ghz on a 4770k is the same as 4.5ghz on a 4670k as in if they will preform the same correct?

If I misunderstood theres alot of grammar errors in your post which I don't mind everyone makes mistakes smile.gif


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Yes correct .. and the 8350 too is different at delivering the power and efficiency to the GPU

there are of course differences between these CPUs in OCing and performance >> that leads me to aspects and info I have to learn about in practice more than theoretical info wink.gif


Ok to answer the question...
A 4770k will almost always come out on top if your matching Ghz with a 4670 i5 due to the cache and alot of other variables so for that i5 to match the i7 it would need to be higher.

The i5-4670k is a bottleneck to a 760 I had to overclock my friends for him to play bioshock infinite on max settings I took him to 4.5ghz cause it was overclocking over long distance and I know people don't wanna stay on the line for hours. However your knowledgeable enough to do it on your own while asking questions. If a i5-4670 already bottlenecks a 760 more then likely its gonna bottleneck a 770.... I'd try 4.3ghz and go from there





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Yes correct .. and the 8350 too is different at delivering the power and efficiency to the GPU

there are of course differences between these CPUs in OCing and performance >> that leads me to aspects and info I have to learn about in practice more than theoretical info wink.gif
No processor delivers power or anything for that matter to the GPU. The GPU is basically a stand-alone computer specifically made for graphic processing. The reason you get bottlenecks is because the game requires both CPU and GPU for two different things, which is why they have separate usages in games. Basically, you have a bottleneck if the CPU usage is near 100% and the GPU usage is below 80% or vice versa.

The 8350 is a different type of chip with different cores. It handles things completely different then the 4670k. thumb.gif
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No processor delivers power or anything for that matter to the GPU. The GPU is basically a stand-alone computer specifically made for graphic processing. The reason you get bottlenecks is because the game requires both CPU and GPU for two different things, which is why they have separate usages in games. Basically, you have a bottleneck if the CPU usage is near 100% and the GPU usage is below 80% or vice versa.

The 8350 is a different type of chip with different cores. It handles things completely different then the 4670k. thumb.gif

Yes .. I know the GPU has a processor inside it biggrin.gif

OK ..


which situations the CPU is %100 and GPU is less, so the GPU is bottlenecked ?


are these situations determined for users experiences or depends on theoretical rules?
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Ok to answer the question...
A 4770k will almost always come out on top if your matching Ghz with a 4670 i5 due to the cache and alot of other variables so for that i5 to match the i7 it would need to be higher.

The i5-4670k is a bottleneck to a 760 I had to overclock my friends for him to play bioshock infinite on max settings I took him to 4.5ghz cause it was overclocking over long distance and I know people don't wanna stay on the line for hours. However your knowledgeable enough to do it on your own while asking questions. If a i5-4670 already bottlenecks a 760 more then likely its gonna bottleneck a 770.... I'd try 4.3ghz and go from there





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there has been said that there's a slight difference between 4670k and 4770k, especially in gaming. And you are wasting you money with 4770k.

I actually liked the 4770k, and want the 8 logical cores. And, members as I think they are experts, saying i5 is more than enough for gaming. NOT mentioning multitasking apps.


Even so, I think 4670k is good with multitasking apps as well, if it's very good with gaming. Since games are are complex and heavy apps.
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Yes .. I know the GPU has a processor inside it biggrin.gif

OK ..


which situations the CPU is %100 and GPU is less, so the GPU is bottlenecked ?


are these situations determined for users experiences or depends on theoretical rules?

if the cpu is at 100% and the gpu is at 80% then the cpu is the bottleneck but it all depends on what games your playing some games it maybe the other way around in 1 game the gpu maybe the bottleneck and in another the cpu maybe the bottleneck it would depend on what game your playing smile.gif
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