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Originally Posted by imran27 View Post

AMD does consume more power but temp wise Intel is way worse than anything. AMD max temp is 60-65* C and Intel is 100* C. Also, idle and load temps of 4670k and 8350k on the same cooler differ a lot, Intel being on on the higher side

AMD and Intel have very similar ACTUAL junction temps, the difference is in the number they they spit out at the user. They can not be compared. Intel's reported temp is closer to an actual junction temp. AMDs reported temp is very far from the actual junction temp. I have my suspicions that this was done to fool people into thinking that AMD runs cooler, therefor must be better (anything for a leg up on marketing right?). PileDriver dissipates far more thermal energy for the same work, and I assure you, the actual temps are very high.

This "AMD runs cooler" is a total myth, started a long time ago when AMD chose to report temps differently. Don't buy into it.
Edited by mdocod - 4/28/14 at 3:59am
     
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tropical weather? do you water cool guys have to worry about condensation? - as i don't water cool and never will but curious thumb.gif
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As long as the water is not cooled to sub-ambient temps it makes no difference. In a traditional loop (be it custom or CLC), the water temp will always be above ambient temps. The only time this is not true, is if the radiator has been placed somewhere with lower temps (like in a fridge, or out the window on a cold day), or if it is being cooled via some form of heat-pump (refrigeration), peltier device, or chemical phase change.
     
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thanks for the answer thumb.gif
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4670k is good, but for now 4770k or the 8350/20 is a better option (higher thread count basically), for budget 8350 and for better performance 4770k.

this is a tech review about the two CPUs

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/586/Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html

this is a very nice benchmark ..

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=7

With regard to many threads in different forums which prefer i5 over i7, for better money savings mostly ..
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As long as the water is not cooled to sub-ambient temps it makes no difference. In a traditional loop (be it custom or CLC), the water temp will always be above ambient temps. The only time this is not true, is if the radiator has been placed somewhere with lower temps (like in a fridge, or out the window on a cold day), or if it is being cooled via some form of heat-pump (refrigeration), peltier device, or chemical phase change.


WOW .. so liquid cooler is not any advantage for the warm weather ?


Also, one suggested Cooler Master 240L liquid cooler .. is it better than h100i ?

Because he said h100i has often failures.
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4670k is good, but for now 4770k or the 8350/20 is a better option (higher thread count basically)

They're weaker threads though, so in the case where they're not all utilized, 4670k pulls ahead and even in many cases where they are all utilized such as video encoding, FX 8-threaded CPU is no longer faster than intel's i5 quad (since the performance jumps with Haswell, which likes video encoders)

That's why it's often a bad choice, and i (plus some others) tend to avoid it in favor of saving money with etc a 6300, or just using i5 - at least for a gaming/encoding system
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