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Company recommends 15 Mbps internet access for 4K streaming.

Compared to "Standard-definition Netflix streams can consume up to 2.2 Mbps of bandwidth. Netflix's 720p HD videos come in at roughly 3.8 Mbps, and 1080p videos go up to 4.8 Mbps."
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Netflix has begun streaming the second season of House of Cards and some nature documentaries in 4K HD.

According to Multichannel, Netflix 4K "access is limited to TVs with Netflix and HEVC/H.265 decoding capabilities built in." HDTV Test first reported on the 4K streams going live Sunday, noting that brighter and more colorful scenes from House of Cards are a treat in the new HD format. But to see these improvements — in addition to TV set requirements — users must have at least 15 Mbps internet access to get 4K on Netflix.

Last year, Netflix announced its commitment to the 4K standard and mentioned 4K streaming would happen in the next couple of years. And earlier this year at CES, TV giants like Samsung and LG put their full support behind the 4K and Ultra HD formats when unveiling new sets, with IGN breaking down the differences between the two formats.

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Good to see Netflix forging ahead in spite of the extortion that ISPs are demanding from them. smile.gif
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I can't wait to move somewhere with an ISP that doesn't have caps. I had to turn my netflix quality down because the superhd setting was eating through our 250GB cap in half a month. Just changing that one settings reduced our monthly bandwidth consumption to 30-50GB a month.
 
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doesnt it seem a bit counter intuitive to offer 4k,8k,16k,32k.. 1 million K etc.. and then have youtube levels of compression applied? Blueray @ 1080p is usually around 25 - 30mbps for just the video stream. The audio codecs is about 5mpbs - 7mbps so the typical net result for a blueray @ 1080p = 35MBPS

So, 4K is 4 x 1080p but here we have only 50% video bandwidth of 1080p blueray. Even if the new codec is 50% better that is still a lot less bandwidth and just more lost pixels, banding and blocking.

Just as has been discussed (as per the Vsauce episode on resolution) Distance and Lighting play a huge role in perceived resolution for the human eye, 1080p may not be perfect but pushing a 4k Ultra-HD standard through a small bandwidth pipe vs less compressed 1080p at typical viewing distances where by its already hard to tell the difference between 1080p and 4k on anything less than a 60" screen is just marketing hype.

The marketing buffs answer is to sit closer to the TV with 4K rolleyes.gif


The answer is 4K is best used for computer Monitors so the eye can perceive the details and you are already sat closer. 4K makes more sense in the world of computers.


At least Id prefer it if they offered a proper 40- 50mbps stream with HD audio and said here you go, if you have the connection enjoy the best...
Edited by Pip Boy - 4/8/14 at 10:07am
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It's nice to see 4K being pushed, but with a lot of ISP's in many countries having data caps, 4K streaming wouldn't be feasible.
 
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It's nice to see 4K being pushed, but with a lot of ISP's in many countries having data caps, 4K streaming wouldn't be feasible.

got the connection just need the display thumb.gif
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doesnt it seem a bit counter intuitive to offer 4k,8k,16k,32k.. 1 million K etc.. and then have youtube levels of compression applied? Blueray @ 1080p is usually around 25 - 30mbps for just the video stream. The audio codecs is about 5mpbs - 7mbps so the typical net result for a blueray @ 1080p = 35MBPS

So, 4K is 4 x 1080p but here we have only 50% video bandwidth of 1080p blueray. Even if the new codec is 50% better that is still a lot less bandwidth and just more lost pixels, banding and blocking.

Just as has been discussed (as per the Vsauce episode on resolution) Distance and Lighting play a huge role in perceived resolution for the human eye, 1080p may not be perfect but pushing a 4k Ultra-HD standard through a small bandwidth pipe vs less compressed 1080p at typical viewing distances where by its already hard to tell the difference between 1080p and 4k on anything less than a 60" screen is just marketing hype.

The marketing buffs answer is to sit closer to the TV with 4K rolleyes.gif


The answer is 4K is best used for computer Monitors so the eye can perceive the details and you are already sat closer. 4K makes more sense in the world of computers.


At least Id prefer it if they offered a proper 40- 50mbps stream with HD audio and said here you go, if you have the connection enjoy the best...

I'm sure you could still point out the 4k tv if it is next to a 1080p tv, and if they are the same price why not go for the 4k. Its all about consumerism. They will sell which is why they are providing them. You can still see a difference. It might be minuscule but its still a difference that people are willing to pay for and have the money to pay for.
 
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Meanwhile Comcast says i can't go over 300GB in a month.

I would also like to take this time to congratulate Comcast on winning the Worst Company in America award for the second time.
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got the connection just need the display thumb.gif

Same, although display wise I'm a bit unsure what to go for. Seen a few nice ones, like the 28" Samsung and Asus. But I'd likely need to get some upgrades in the GPU department too. Which btw is long overdue....lol
 
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I struggle with 720 lol ISP is America are corrupt...
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