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cool beans but half the world dont have the connection or data caps for this to happen

Surely Netflix isn't catering their 4k initiative to those who live in huts (who can apparently afford $5,000-20,000 TV's
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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

Surely Netflix isn't catering their 4k initiative to those who live in huts (who can apparently afford $5,000-20,000 TV's

lol you can live in mansions and nto have adequate internet when ISP stuffs you over
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I think they're intentionally doing this to piss off isp even more thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post

It's nice to see 4K being pushed, but with a lot of ISP's in many countries having data caps, 4K streaming wouldn't be feasible.

This.
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Thankfully, I have Optimum in my area. A little pricey at ~$80 for 50mb/s + basic TV, but no monthly cap, no hidden fees, and most importantly, it never slows down on me, even when I'm streaming Youtube and Netflix.

However, I'd love me some Google Fiber or more local ISP providers. I saw a youtube video on The TEK with Logan (you might remember him from tigerdirect) who was talking about an idea of Google making ISP start up kits which would be amazing.
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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

Meanwhile ISPs will still throttle your bandwidth when you are streaming movies, goodluck watching 4k with that.
This is why I download fairly high quality BDrip (4.4gb files, and yes I pay for the service) instead of streaming from Netflix, I only have a 10mbps connection but no monthly data cap =) So I just download whatever I want then stream it on my smart TV via Wifi thumb.gif
Edited by DarkBlade6 - 4/8/14 at 11:26pm
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Great stuff, to bad I don't intend to go to 4K anytime soon. Great to know tho, that when I do, there will be something to watch. biggrin.gif
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I thought it would need much more than 15 Mbps. Also is this going to be really compressed native 4K or upscaled 1080p?
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Originally Posted by phill1978 View Post

doesnt it seem a bit counter intuitive to offer 4k,8k,16k,32k.. 1 million K etc.. and then have youtube levels of compression applied? Blueray @ 1080p is usually around 25 - 30mbps for just the video stream. The audio codecs is about 5mpbs - 7mbps so the typical net result for a blueray @ 1080p = 35MBPS

So, 4K is 4 x 1080p but here we have only 50% video bandwidth of 1080p blueray. Even if the new codec is 50% better that is still a lot less bandwidth and just more lost pixels, banding and blocking.

Just as has been discussed (as per the Vsauce episode on resolution) Distance and Lighting play a huge role in perceived resolution for the human eye, 1080p may not be perfect but pushing a 4k Ultra-HD standard through a small bandwidth pipe vs less compressed 1080p at typical viewing distances where by its already hard to tell the difference between 1080p and 4k on anything less than a 60" screen is just marketing hype.

The marketing buffs answer is to sit closer to the TV with 4K rolleyes.gif


The answer is 4K is best used for computer Monitors so the eye can perceive the details and you are already sat closer. 4K makes more sense in the world of computers.


At least Id prefer it if they offered a proper 40- 50mbps stream with HD audio and said here you go, if you have the connection enjoy the best...

You may see it as marketing hype, but eventually everyone is going to start using it and it's going to force ISPs to offer better services with much higher data caps or even no data caps at all.

When more and more people start using 4K Netflix, more and more people are going to complain to their ISP about how terrible their service is. That is eventually what is going to force them to upgrade their services. Overall this is better for everyone, whether you use Netflix or not.
    
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Sounds from you guys that I shoud be Pretty happy for my no cap 100/100 mbit connection
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Sounds from you guys that I shoud be Pretty happy for my no cap 100/100 mbit connection

Depends on what you pay for it. A synchronous 100 megabit connection is worth a lot of money to some people, but others (my parents, for example) would see no benefit from it. They are quite content with 25/5 from Comcast and, to be honest, that's all they need. The occasionally bulk download or 1080p Netflix stream is the most intensive thing they do, and Comcast's streaming performance is actually quite good in our neighborhood.

Comcast offers up to 150/25 if you go with business class, but it's a pretty penny. redface.gif
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