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Most of the testing I have done on CPU-NB speeds with both Vishera and Stars has indicated to me that effective latency has a greater effect on compute performance than bandwidth as well. In my testing, pushing speeds beyond "supported" speeds on both architectures only positively effects performance by margins that can be replicated by reducing timings. CPU-NB performance scaling also seems to be related to its effect on latency characteristics moreso than bandwidth, as I have never observed any sudden or obvious transition in performance scaling when going above and below the "2:1 and 3:1" ratios that are commonly refereed to when considering CPU-NB vs system memory speeds.

Running memory single channel can improve latency characteristics, which will improve compute performance in many workloads that are not sensitive to bandwidth (most workloads aren't sensitive to bandwidth and run great on single channel).
     
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This is what I got from black hole
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now with a 400mhz oc to 3.8GHZ
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GO ATHLON! biggrin.gif

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Now look at it. It takes Athlon 760k at 4.7ghz to barely beat an Phenom II x4 at 3.8ghz.
FX chip can easily beat Athlon 760k clock to clock.
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Originally Posted by dixson01974 View Post

Now look at it. It takes Athlon 760k at 4.7ghz to barely beat an Phenom II x4 at 3.8ghz.
FX chip can easily beat Athlon 760k clock to clock.

and the phemon x6 and little slower than the fx 6300 at 4.ghz i have been looking at scores beteewn the the two cpus
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i don't think this bench uses newer instruction. we can ask the author but i doubt it. the 6300 beats the thuban in benches like passmark and Hwbot benchmark.




also, you know that not many phenom can do what this chip can. it is golden - kinda. i'll sell my i7 but this chip is a keeper.
Nice score. But all FX 6300's can do what I did in this bench smile.gif
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What I am getting from some of these post is that I can increase my NB speed for a increase in memory performance due to latency?

I will try to increase my NB some more in my bios later on and see IF i cant confirm.
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Ya I wonder? for my black hole score I just upped the multiplier when I get home I will do a test at 3.4GHz at NB 2800 and one at 3.8GHz with NB 3000 and see if I get a better score I am already running my ram DDR3 at 1600
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Running at 3.4 stock and a a jump on the NB form 2000 to 2400
This is what I now get
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