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my friend is looking to get a computer that will run at least 2 android virtual machines simultaneously, which processor is better for this kind of work? im looking at a pentum or i3 on the 1150 or the AMD 6300, he has a budget of 500 and we have the hard drive, disk drive, and operating system taken care of. Any help would be great! smile.gif thank you for any help! biggrin.gif
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I would say go for the 6300 if you can swing it, virtual machines = MOAR CORES. Does this $500 need to go towards monitor+peripherals or just the tower?
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its just the tower, i was looking at the following
fx 6300
970a-g46 msi mobo
Gigabyte GT630 DDR3-2GB
Corsair Builder Series CX 500
Hyper 212 EVO
Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz
the case is just a cheap full tower,
we have the hdd and the operating system, monitors and the mouse and keyboard, he wants to run dual monitors so i put the 2 gb 630gt card on, or is there a beter card for around the price?
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I would say go for the 6300 if you can swing it, virtual machines = MOAR CORES. Does this $500 need to go towards monitor+peripherals or just the tower?

plus one i have the fx 6300 and gaming on it is very good
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i game on an 8320 and a gtx 770, its amazing biggrin.gif
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AMD may offer better VALUE for this, but not because it has more cores. AMD offers IOMMU (=VT-d) and SVM (=AMD-V) on low end CPUs and chipsets, which MAY improve the performance of the virtual machines by offering direct hardware access rather than emulated hardware (to things like the NIC, video card, sound etc). The problem is that. in this case, running an ARM OS that has been recompiled to X86 isn't apt to really take advantage of much of the resource access that these virtualization technologies would offer as it is unlikely that you could install any useful drivers to support that hardware, in which case, the i3 may wind up running these better as it would likely have better grunt where it counts to emulate the GPU. I think I'd still be inclined to go for the cheap AMD solution here though just in case it can leverage those technologies (no clue to be honest).

A richland based APU would do the trick, far as I know all of the A series chipsets and CPUs support SVM and IOMMU. The A8-6600K is probably the the best value.

Intel chips with VT-d start at ~$180. i5-4440. The $180 i5 includes a functional iGPU, whereas, the competing FX-6300/8320 do not, so the AM3+ platform isn't going to be any cheaper to implement than an i5 unless you figured on having a discrete GPU either way.

The A8-6600K on an ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ would be great for ~$180 combined.

The FX-6300/8320 on an Asus M5A97 R2.0 or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P with an R7 260X or GTX750 would also be great for ~$350

Alternatively, i5-4440 on a Q87 (Asus Q87M-E/CSM) or one of the VT-d supporting H87/Z87 boards, probably ~$400 total.


If you determine that VT-d could help here (which comes down to whether or not someone has written or modified linux drivers for X86 android to use dedicated X86 hardware), then the AMD solutions may work better for the money. If the virtual box is forced to emulate all of the hardware, then the Intel i3 or i5 will work better (and you could just skip the Vt-d support on the board and opt for a cost effective B85). An investigation into what, if any direct hardware support there would be running andriod on the desktop is in order to answer this more completely.

Best of luck,
Eric
Edited by mdocod - 4/13/14 at 11:44pm
     
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
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Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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My friend decided to go with the 6300, with the msi 970A-G46 mobo, 8 gb of 1600 MHz ram, a gtx 750 so he can run tow monitors, with a 500watt psu. He doesn't game at all but he works on android and his current system is an amd dual core at 2.0 ghz. It's a huge improvement on his old system. I don't think he will need more than this if he's not gaming at all, thank you for posting all that information! thumb.gifapplaud.gif
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