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Hello all, I'm sorry if this was posted in the wrong section, please move it if need be, I wasn't sure which software section I should ask this under.

I've been using VMware for quite some time and have no issues with it, however, my company would like to put together a server that can do the following:

-Setup some type of virtualization where I can create 1 VM, and copy it 20x to identical VM's just under different names.
Example: VMlogin01, VMlogin02, with the ability to restore them all to my default setup at the end of each week.

Basically, it will be for students to login and use some software while they're being trained. We'd like to have our server setup so they can simple go to a website we host www.example.com/class/login.html and it will ask a username/password, once they enter the info provided (VMlogin01/VMpass01aBc123xYz) it will load up a VM with windows 7 on it, a few different softwares, with limited access to anything else if possible.

The most important thing would probably be being able to restore all 12 accounts back to their "standard setup" upon them no longer being in use.

Now I know VMWare has some software that can do this, as do some of their competitors. But I'm not really savy when it comes to this type of stuff or the lingo involved, which software or softwares should I start looking at from the VMWare family or elsewhere?

I know the idea above sounds quite confusing, but we have our reasons for not setting it up RDP style.
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I hope you have the resources to run all 20 of those virtual machines. Honestly I would use a terminal server set up. A terminal server farm with maybe 3 or 4 VMs.

Hyper-V 2012 can do VDI (virtual desktop).

Otherwise... create your 20 VMs, take a base snapshot, let users do what they want, revert the snapshot at the end of the week.
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So Hyper-V would be the one to look into? I may have been hyperbolic when I said 20, but 12 would definitely be needed.

What type of specs do you think our server would need in order to handle it?

Xeon E5620, 32gb of ram, windows server 2008 r2 is what we've got. It's a Dell server. I know that isn't a lot of info, didn't see a model # though.

Thanks for your quick response.
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So Hyper-V would be the one to look into? I may have been hyperbolic when I said 20, but 12 would definitely be needed.

What type of specs do you think our server would need in order to handle it?

Xeon E5620, 32gb of ram, windows server 2008 r2 is what we've got. It's a Dell server. I know that isn't a lot of info, didn't see a model # though.

Thanks for your quick response.

If these are Windows VMs Hyper-V will probably be better because licensing costs may work better than using VMware. You WILL need to license each VM if they're running Windows.

You're going to need RAM. And a lot of it. It depends what the VMs are running. I hardly build Windows machines with less than 4GB of RAM these days but you can get away with 2GB providing the applications on them don't need a bucket load of RAM. Keep at least 2GB reserved for the hypervisor, while at 2GB for each VM (say, 12), then 32GB should be fine but might be cutting it close...

... which is why I still suggest a terminal server farm. 4VMs with 6GB each.
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