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post #11 of 18
Point is we are talking about the best pumps avalable here, the d5 and ddc, there are no better pums.
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post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by PepeLapiu View Post

300 l/hr flow rate is PLENTY. That comes out to 1.3 gpm, which is good enough.
But those specs mean absolutely nothing, didly, squat, ziltsh, nada, zero.
That 300 l/hr rating is most likely without any restrictions in the way, no pressure drop, no head.

And yeah, get a D5 Vario to dial your pump speed and noise to your liking.

This is a well reasoned post and I concur,the D5 is the subjectively better pump. I use them exclusively,I cherish reliability and silence over meaningless max values.
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No offense but "meaningles values", I dont know if that is comming from the "right" person.
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post #14 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by PachAz View Post

No offense but "meaningles values", I dont know if that is comming from the "right" person.

Meaningless to water coolers anyways.
For example, my D5 punps are rated for 4 or 5 gpm.
But that is in free flow, no head, no tubing, no pressure drop.
Hardly a practical value for a water cooling loop, wouldn't you agree?

In fact, in complete free flow, with only 6 inch of tubing and the low pressure drop of my flow meter, my D5 pumps could not even do 3 gpm.

So if only 6 inch of tubing and a flow meter offer enough pressure drop to cut the pump's flow by more that 25-40%, don't you think that 4-5 gpm rating becomes useless to water coolers?

And what does one need to do to qualify as the "right" person?
Would 20 years of water cooling qualify me?
Edited by PepeLapiu - 4/11/14 at 2:05pm
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post #16 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by PachAz View Post

No offense but "meaningles values", I dont know if that is comming from the "right" person.

Feel free to ask around,i know what im talking about or perhaps my many years as a plumber....or the numerous builds and testing I have done for personal satisfaction?
Or perhaps that im a hardware rep for a watercooling specific company?

The max pressure specs quoted by most pump manu's are zero flow/max pressure or max flow/zero pressure specs,they dont correlate into anything meaningful until you plot the PQ curve between the two.

Does that make it easier for you to understand?
Edited by B NEGATIVE - 4/11/14 at 3:00pm
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I just found it funny because looking at your system, its all but "modest".
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post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by PachAz View Post

I just found it funny because looking at your system, its all but "modest".

I started by cooling a Dell box with a car's heater core 15-20 years ago.
I have built small rigs in the past
They just get bigger and more monstreous every new build.
And I certainly can understand and relate to guys wanting to build a rig on the cheap, or at least with a limited budget. I've done it before, a few times.

But cheap water cooling is a borderline oxymoron
Like a cheap Audi if you will.
Edited by PepeLapiu - 4/11/14 at 6:58pm
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