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I think my original Titan won't need to replaced for a while.
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I wouldn't consider better than GTX 780 Ti and the like to be midrange. It's hard to tell from specs just how it will perform because it is gimped by the memory bit depth and ROP count but will probably still beat a vanilla GTX 780.

I don't consider the Titan or any of its above $1000 companions to be "high-end" because it is playing it a totally different ballgame, "ultra-high-end" for professionals with deeper pockets.

I really hope next generation Nvidia returns to reason that the sweet spot price/performance will always outsell and make the big bucks for them. Not this runaway price point train. It just seems like every new graphics card announced is more expensive than the last. The ceiling will be found soon.
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I wouldn't consider better than GTX 780 Ti and the like to be midrange. It's hard to tell from specs just how it will perform because it is gimped by the memory bit depth and ROP count but will probably still beat a vanilla GTX 780.

I don't consider the Titan or any of its above $1000 companions to be "high-end" because it is playing it a totally different ballgame, "ultra-high-end" for professionals with deeper pockets.

I really hope next generation Nvidia returns to reason that the sweet spot price/performance will always outsell and make the big bucks for them. Not this runaway price point train. It just seems like every new graphics card announced is more expensive than the last. The ceiling will be found soon.
So you think the 880 will probably beat a vanilla 780...has there ever been a gpu release where the previous high end model(780) BEATS the new high end model(880)? Because that would equate to about 0 cards sold
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I lot of the confusion in this forum stems from the fact people think NVIDIA controls the manufacturing process. They don't. They wait like puppies for TSMC to give them the "OK". You think they can't handle orders on chips they already have? No way. You think they sell so many Pro cards they can't sell Gaming cards? No way. They wait like puppies for TSMC to tell them "ok, little nvidia, you now print your chips, and wait, you know, they cost a cazillion for the first few months". So they print mainly for the pro cards at first and the cost generally goes down to what 780 was at first for the GK110. And people whine that nvidia is "overpriced". A joke. Titan sure, but this is 28 and 20nm and 2014 people. Forget the 90s and the early 00s. We got to pay in blood to shrink the transistor. And it's so monumentally expensive to do it, nvidia can not afford it, amd could not afford it anymore, only the giants can. So let amd and nvidia wait like puppies for tsmc to give their ok for gpus because really, they control nothing, they just wait for the apple apus now to complete and it's their turn, with possibly even more horrible yields at first. Which is a bit worrisome by the way since if they overshot with the gk110, they got to make a big-ish chip on the get-go on 20nm, and that'll be bad for the consumer. It's likely to be of the size of the 290 as the rumour specifically implies and that means possibly an underwhelming gm110.

O.K.....sounds informed ***but....

What would you wager the price a gtx 780 actually cost Nvidia to make?...cold hard math....

Because no matter how well informed you sound, I just can't, for the life of me, swallow that Nvidia has to work so hard and is actually doing us a favor with these prices

I personally would wager that the actual manufacturing price is somewhere between ridiculous and laughable
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O.K.....sounds informed ***but....

What would you wager the price a gtx 780 actually cost Nvidia to make?...cold hard math....

Because no matter how well informed you sound, I just can't, for the life of me, swallow that Nvidia has to work so hard and is actually doing us a favor with these prices

I personally would wager that the actual manufacturing price is somewhere between ridiculous and laughable

I would wager the markup on pretty much any computer component is nothing near what the markup is on many other retail items you see on a store shelf.
    
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O.K.....sounds informed madsmiley.png
What would you wager the price a gtx 780 actually cost Nvidia to make?...cold hard math....

Because no matter how well informed you sound, I just can't, for the life of me, swallow that Nvidia has to work so hard and is actually doing us a favor with these prices

I personally would wager that the actual manufacturing price is somewhere between ridiculous and laughable

I would wager using manufacturing price alone is 100% inaccurate in figuring the price of what it costs to produce a GPU. Just JUST the price of stamping out the card is likely REALLY low. Paying TSMC? Obscene. Engineering time? Obscene. Payroll? Obscene. Paying for CEO's Bentley, Yacht & 5 houses? Obscene.
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Yeah the price of actually making a chip (the parts that go into one) is obviously dirt cheap. That doesn't take into account the price of R&D and the cost of fabs/using other companies fabs. After you account for that the markup on components is not that high.
 
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You will find people who complain about any and everything if in the right venue.

GPU prices are obscene from both parties. Nvidia takes the cake with Titan & Titan Z. Resources are also up... Seen the price of gold lately? Granted, very little goes into each GPU, but it is an example of what can/does drive up the physical production price of the PCB. I would love to know what the physical production prices are, and what they value the R&D time @.
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There is no way GPU's cost that much to make. I'd be willing to bet the highest end single cards could go for $400 - $500 and they'd still bring in a really great profit.

They charge what they think they can get away with, not what the item is worth. I mean, how much is maxing out a game at a good res really worth? Thousands of dollars when you can get a console for fractions of the price? Hell no.

Doesn't bother me, I was sitting this gen of cards out anyway.
     
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You will find people who complain about any and everything if in the right venue.

GPU prices are obscene from both parties. Nvidia takes the cake with Titan & Titan Z. Resources are also up... Seen the price of gold lately? Granted, very little goes into each GPU, but it is an example of what can/does drive up the physical production price of the PCB. I would love to know what the physical production prices are, and what they value the R&D time @.

I'd like to know too.

It's going to get to a point pretty quickly that they can't keep pushing the prices.

I would actually also be interested in seeing how much the prices have actually gone up, taking into account inflation and the change in prices of the components themselves.
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