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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_am1_linux_nda

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34390-heres-our-first-crowdsourced-amd-am1-review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7933/the-desktop-kabini-review-part-1-athlon-5350-am1

http://www.servethehome.com/Workstation-detail/amd-athlon-5150-benchmarks-review-am1-apu/
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Traditionally the ultra low end/low power SoCs on desktops have come in packages soldered on to motherboards. If you need a faster CPU, you bought a new motherboard with it. With its new AM1 platform, AMD hopes to bring the sort of flexibility enjoyed by the rest of the desktop market to the entry level value segment.
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Maximum power consumption during benchmarks: 19.6w

NDA lifted this morning. Looks like a good value considering the APUs and boards both start at ~$35.
Edited by Dyson Poindexter - 4/9/14 at 12:16pm
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Hmm headscratch.gif

I wonder if these could be used for gaming with a r7 gpu...

These would be great for school.
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[Phoronix] DDR3 Memory Scaling Performance With AMD's Athlon 5350




Perfect for HTPC, cheap steambox, file server, router...

Micro Center has Sempron 3850 AM1 for $36.99 & Athlon 5350 $59.99






AMD AM1 Athlon 5350 Reviewed: Low Power, Low Price APU For the Masses @pcper

AMD Athlon 5350 And AM1 Platform Review: Kabini In A Socket @Tom's Hardware

AMD “Kabini” AM1 Athlon 5350 APU (FS1b) Review – Winning at sub-$60? @eTeknix


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AMD’s AM1 platform has just blown me away. Sure you could say that on paper the specifications do not look that impressive and given the wider desktop picture the results are mediocre. However, I think we’ve come to take benchmark numbers as gospel when that needn’t be the case because we don’t benchmark in our everyday use of computer components. AMD’s Athlon 5350 CPU shows its worth in everyday computing tasks, I spent an entire day using it as my main PC for surfing the web, checking emails, watching YouTube videos and playing some light games. Throughout it all this APU performed admirably and I barely noticed any lag or stutter except in really demanding applications. Sometimes I forgot I was using a such an affordable system. Okay granted I was using an SSD but an SSD is the only way to go if you want a snappy PC – and you can get affordable SSDs today for as low as $40 which is much cheaper than most mechanical drives. The Kabini platform looks set to be interesting in terms of storage because it has support for other fast storage formats like SDXC and UHS-I. This means we could see a Raspberry Pi scenario where people boot from cheap-as-chips SD cards – this would go a long way to making the AM1 platform more affordable and accessible to emerging markets. AM1 also covers many other bases because it has USB 2.0, USB 3.0, SATA III and Gigabit Ethernet support. In terms of graphical performance the Kabini design is capable of great things, 4K, multiple displays and light-weight gaming at a price point where we’d normally be lucky if we could even play browser games.

The AM1 platform has a lot going for it in terms of features and value for money at its price points. However, I can see the platform struggling to excited motherboard vendors because they will have their margins squeezed even further. The AM1 platform is very value orientated and AMD wants its vendors to produce $25-35 motherboards – that is really cheap. The main reason prices can go so low is because the chipset is effectively on the APU, this means consumers buy the chipset in the cost of the APU not the cost of the motherboard so motherboard vendors can produce cheaper motherboards as there is no chipset purchase and licensing costs. However, at $35 will we even see vendors taking advantage of all the things the AM1 platform can do, like Gigabit Ethernet, mini PCIe connectivity, DisplayPort and SD(IO) card support. There’s no way you can flesh out all the available connectivity onto a motherboard for less than $35 so trade-offs will need to be made. That said the motherboard we have used for testing this platform, the MSI AM1I, is pleasantly surprising. It has mPCIe, a full 16X PCIe slot, Gigabit ethernet, ALC 887 audio, HDMI, DVI and VGA out, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, SATA III and PS/2 connectors. You can buy it today for $34.99 and today is launch day so prices are always a bit higher, it could fall in price in the future. The only thing I can really criticise this motherboard for is a lack of fan headers. Another point worth noting is that AM1 uses a custom cooler mount that is different to past FM and AM sockets, in fact it only uses two mounting holes. AMD therefore also needs to get vendors producing CPU coolers on-board too. As it stands cooling will be important for AM1 especially passive cooling when people might want to use this platform to power silent HTPCs and XBMC systems.
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I can see the AM1 platform being ideal for:

  • Older people who have never been able to get connected to the internet before and need a cheap starter PC
  • Parents who want to get their kids a PC for school work or light gaming but are on a tight budget
  • Enthusiasts who want a powerful XBMC platform but are worried or put off Android XBMC boxes because of the ocean of available options and the horror stories of rip-off Android XBMC boxes that do not work
  • Home users who need an always on system for media streaming, download management or file storage
  • People who need a backup PC for when their main PC might go wrong
  • Home users who want to set up a surveillance system

Just like the Raspberry Pi I think the possibilities with AMD’s AM1 platform are endless; the low cost will no doubt inspire a community of consumers and developers who are interested in doing great things with such affordable hardware. The low power also makes these a more attractive option over FM2 units in a similar price range. I think today is the start of a much wider project by AMD, expect to see the AM1 platform develop and become more exciting as motherboard vendors, system integrators and other computer hardware developers start to do interesting things with them. Once again we are seeing AMD playing to their strengths and this can only be a good thing for all consumers.

Edited by Heuchler - 4/13/14 at 10:42am
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Wow, 37W at full load :O

 

That price is quite magnific aswell!

   
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I don't think this would work well as Steambox. I had a i3-3225, and the HD4000 is faster than the iGPU of the Kabini. I can only play L4D2 on the lowest setting at 60 fps on 1920*1080.

Now imagine trying to play Crysis or BF4 or Far Cry. Your Kanini will implode.
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Overpriced to the fullest. AMD must've forgotten about their lower
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Wow, 37W at full load :O

That price is quite magnific aswell!

I hope you mean overpriced.....
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I find it interesting that AMD's own slides show that the "performance" market segment is bigger than "mainstream".

 
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agree it wouldn't work well as a steambox. but should be able to some classic games like Half Life, Counter-Strike.
the Athlon 5350 does get 10fps in Battlefield 4 SP @1920x1080 (using the build in HD 8400). 8fps on Far Cry 3


AMD AM1 Platform with Athlon 5350 and MSI AM1i Motherboard Review @hardwareheaven
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Conclusion
When AMD were briefing the press on AM1 they noted that it was most comparable with the low end Pentium CPUs, occasionally pairing them with a low end GeForce when the GPU just wasn't good enough. In reality though the features and pricing of the Intel parts are not comparable with AM1... the price is notably higher for a comparable part and the features more limited on the Intel platform.

What AMD are doing here is bringing performance and features normally associated with a higher price point to a new audience. This means we get some great key features such as SATA3 and USB3 ports to remove the usual bottlenecks associated with low end kit and then added to that a quad core "CPU" mixed with the latest GPU tech. Yes the APU isn't capable of playing the latest games such as Titanfall with any normal resolution or detail level but it can quite happily play the likes of DOTA2 and Minecraft without issue. Playback of 1080/HD content was also handled with ease and general productivity tasks were responsive.


Low power and low cost of mobile genes - AMD launches AM1 platform for desktops @ nordichardware
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The war on the most energy-efficient desktop computer market is in full swing, and AMD's answer to Intel's Bay Trail platform collectively as AM1. These are the mobile Kabini platform that has a new home with a custom plinth, with a focus on low price, high GPU performance and upgradeability.

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Overpriced to the fullest.
Show me any other CPU that's 31 dollars.
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I don't think this would work well as Steambox

but as a Steam Streambox and HTPC it will thumb.gif

the idle power must be 14w or there abouts too.. so its going to be great for a passively cooled server build in the home without noise, power bills or dust to worry about. you could even run some games on a 1 fan or passive system
Edited by Pip Boy - 4/9/14 at 11:52am
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