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they dont need K ...just a six core jaguar 25W TDp - probably would run BF4 at ultra steady 50 FPS smile.gif
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they dont need K ...just a six core jaguar 25W TDp - probably would run BF4 at ultra steady 50 FPS smile.gif
Jaguar cores and later on this year Puma cores would be great for applications that scale almost indefinitely. Let's say a single Jaguar cores takes up 3,5mm^2 tops on 28nm and you would have for example a fab as good as IBM's making a 650mm^2 die.
You could make a 180 core chip and if you were to get it running on temash clocks and the process was efficient it wouldn't even consume that much. A single chip that if it was to scale perfectly could match a 4 way e5 system at 1/4th of the power consumption.

With so many cores it would almost be like a gpu based on a cpu like the Larrabee but without the fail it turned out to be.
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Jaguar cores and later on this year Puma cores would be great for applications that scale almost indefinitely. Let's say a single Jaguar cores takes up 3,5mm^2 tops on 28nm and you would have for example a fab as good as IBM's making a 650mm^2 die.
You could make a 180 core chip and if you were to get it running on temash clocks and the process was efficient it wouldn't even consume that much. A single chip that if it was to scale perfectly could match a 4 way e5 system at 1/4th of the power consumption.

With so many cores it would almost be like a gpu based on a cpu like the Larrabee but without the fail it turned out to be.

Hmm .. thats actually pretty interesting thought. The FX-8350 is ~315 mm2 - so you could basically put 90 of these little cores in there. Thats a lot. However, by making a little smaller die they could do, say a 64 core chips with these. Thats only 224 mm2 so yield might be pretty reasonable. Although TDP might creep a bit high even with the power efficiency of these. But it would sure give a new meaning to this 'moar cores' meme.

Windows 64 bit versions apparently can support up to 256 threads wink.gif http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements (although 32 bit ones are limited to only 32 threads).

Plus having a 64 or 128 core part would give a lot of opportunity for binning by just deactivating the cores that fail QA at given clocks. And with that many cores they could work the opposite direction from the current and instead of using some GPU part for floating point they might instead just offload some GPU work to unused FP units wink.gif
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Hmm .. thats actually pretty interesting thought. The FX-8350 is ~315 mm2 - so you could basically put 90 of these little cores in there. Thats a lot. However, by making a little smaller die they could do, say a 64 core chips with these. Thats only 224 mm2 so yield might be pretty reasonable. Although TDP might creep a bit high even with the power efficiency of these. But it would sure give a new meaning to this 'moar cores' meme.

Windows 64 bit versions apparently can support up to 256 threads wink.gif http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements (although 32 bit ones are limited to only 32 threads).
Ironically AMD abandoned their moar cores server offensive and turned around focusing more towards HSA servers. Intel has 15 cores on a single chip as of E7 V2.
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Good in theory but a processor die doesn't just have cores, can't even imagine what sort of "uncore" such a design would demand biggrin.gif
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Good in theory but a processor die doesn't just have cores, can't even imagine what sort of "uncore" such a design would demand biggrin.gif
You're right that would potentially cut the number of cores in more than half since half the space is already taken up by L2.
Still AMD you know you want too! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Wow. No cache. Just cores. The RAM becomes the L3, L2, and even L1 caches. Perfect!

I think they will stick with the MOAR CORES philosophy, but they'll be GCN cores, not cat cores or CPU modules.
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I should have my build by the end of this month. biggrin.gif

Will only use a little more power than my ouya I assume.
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i read some ware that theas little chips do well when paired with a 750 can you even run sutch a card with that little band width

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X4 is plenty band with for most high/higher end single gpu cards.
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