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What ehume said. thumb.gif

If you do go with TY-143 fan, be sure to increase case airflow to about twice what 'normal' fans use .. because the TY-143 move about twice the air at full speed. biggrin.gif
If you do not increase case flow to cooler and out of case the cooler will re-use it's own heated exhaust, and every degree warmer the air going into cooler is translates to 1c hotter the CPU is. wink.gif

Removing the real grill greatly increases the exhaust airflow .. and lowers noise levels as well.

 

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The F31 will fit two 140mm intakes. If you don't use the optical drive bay, can install one nearly inline with the D15. Suggest 2X Noc A15 PWM connected to a PWM splitter running off the CPU header. That way the intakes are sync'd to the cooler so the system breathes as needed. Also suggest a 140mm exhaust. Could be another A15 pwm connected to the splitter. There's other decent 140mm fan choices, if you want to forgo the delicious chocolate and cream combo.


If you are going to use Noctua fans, go with the A14 FLX (1200 rpm). Square frame.

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Nah to many noc fans,they are to pricey for my taste, I have 2 thermaltake pure fans and 4x xilence so I'll do some combo with them as I have a lot of fan mount options in f31
When air cooling we need to make sure the case is flowing more air than components are using. CLCs like H100 are not as good as any of the top air coolers .. while close in overall cooling ability, to achieve the same cooling CLCs may many times more noise. Best example I know if is this German review of H100, Silver Arrow SB-E and Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme. NH-D15 is near identical performance to Silver Arrow SB-E .. 1c better than H100 but only a fraction as loud. Using high performance fans making as much noise as H100 it is 7c cooler.


Here is NH-D14 and TRUE Spirit 140 Power using same high performance fans. Notice the 8.25 -9.3c difference between 1200rpm and 2500rpm fan speed.


But don't think you can simply put high performance fan on cooler and get this kind of results! It is a complete package deal requiring case airflow to be improved to match. We have to supply cooler with cool air !! Otherwise air temps inside of case are much higher as a result of cooler having to re-use it's on heated exhasut, and this means CPU will be much higher temperature.
post #1274 of 1549
Which would most likely cool better on this heatsink: two 120mm fans or a single 140mm fan in the center (assuming the fans are of similar quality, such as made by the same manufacturer)? Would running a 140mm fan in the center and a 120mm pushing toward the 140mm be better than a single 140mm fan or two 120mm fans or would that open up a can of worms that would be better off left closed?
     
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Which would most likely cool better on this heatsink: two 120mm fans or a single 140mm fan in the center (assuming the fans are of similar quality, such as made by the same manufacturer)? Would running a 140mm fan in the center and a 120mm pushing toward the 140mm be better than a single 140mm fan or two 120mm fans or would that open up a can of worms that would be better off left closed?
Generaly a single 140mm fan will move more air than 2x 120mm push/pull fans, but it does depend on how well the fans overcome resistance.

Which heatsink are you referring to?

NH-D14 on i7 920@4.2GHz
w/ 2x GT fans @ 850 rpm was 51.95c delta
w/ 2x GT fans @ 1700rpm was 51.5c delta
w/ 1x GT fan @ 1700 rpm was 54.55c delta
w/ 1x TY-143 @ 1200rpm was 57.c delta

True Spirit 140 Power on i7 920@4.2GHz
w/ 2x GT fans @ 850 rpm was 59.1c delta
w/ 2x GT fans @ 1700rpm was 49.4c delta
w/ 1x GT fan @ 1700rpm was 52.25c delta
w/ 1x TY-143 @ 1200rpm was 54.2c delta

It really depends a lot on how well the fans overcome resistance. The better they overcome resistance the less the difference between a single fan versus stacked fans.
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Which would most likely cool better on this heatsink: two 120mm fans or a single 140mm fan in the center (assuming the fans are of similar quality, such as made by the same manufacturer)? Would running a 140mm fan in the center and a 120mm pushing toward the 140mm be better than a single 140mm fan or two 120mm fans or would that open up a can of worms that would be better off left closed?
Generaly a single 140mm fan will move more air than 2x 120mm push/pull fans, but it does depend on how well the fans overcome resistance.

Which heatsink are you referring to?

NH-D14 on i7 920@4.2GHz
w/ 2x GT fans @ 850 rpm was 51.95c delta
w/ 2x GT fans @ 1700rpm was 51.5c delta
w/ 1x GT fan @ 1700 rpm was 54.55c delta
w/ 1x TY-143 @ 1200rpm was 57.c delta

True Spirit 140 Power on i7 920@4.2GHz
w/ 2x GT fans @ 850 rpm was 59.1c delta
w/ 2x GT fans @ 1700rpm was 49.4c delta
w/ 1x GT fan @ 1700rpm was 52.25c delta
w/ 1x TY-143 @ 1200rpm was 54.2c delta

It really depends a lot on how well the fans overcome resistance. The better they overcome resistance the less the difference between a single fan versus stacked fans.

Since this is the Noctua NH-D15 club thread, I assumed that people would assume I was talking about the NH-D15 or NH-D15S. Silly me (it's the S version, btw). The 120mm fans I had in mind would be Phanteks PH-120MP_BK PWMs. The 140mm could be just about any fan as long as it was square and black; I'm open to suggestions.
     
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Since this is the Noctua NH-D15 club thread, I assumed that people would assume I was talking about the NH-D15 or NH-D15S. Silly me (it's the S version, btw). The 120mm fans I had in mind would be Phanteks PH-120MP_BK PWMs. The 140mm could be just about any fan as long as it was square and black; I'm open to suggestions.
Sorry about that. blushsmiley.gif
Honestly, the stock NF-A15 is a very good fan.
A very good square black 140mm fan is Cooljag Everflow model # R121425SL (PWM) or model # F121425BUAF (variable voltage)
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Since this is the Noctua NH-D15 club thread, I assumed that people would assume I was talking about the NH-D15 or NH-D15S. Silly me (it's the S version, btw). The 120mm fans I had in mind would be Phanteks PH-120MP_BK PWMs. The 140mm could be just about any fan as long as it was square and black; I'm open to suggestions.
Sorry about that. blushsmiley.gif
Honestly, the stock NF-A15 is a very good fan.
A very good square black 140mm fan is Cooljag Everflow model # R121425SL (PWM) or model # F121425BUAF (variable voltage)


Don't forget another very good fan for that heatsink, a drop-in replacement for the stock NF-A15: the Thermalright TY-147A (not the square version). The fan is PWM, not expensive, and fits perfectly. And if you use low-profile RAM (you should) you can put two 140mm fans on that thing.

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Thanks for the replies. So, on the NH-D15S, a single 140mm Thermalright TY-147A will cool better than two 120mm Phanteks PH-120MP_BK PWM (I can't find the Cooljag; the stock fan is seriously ugly, not to mention it won't match my chassis fans)? Would adding a 120mm Phanteks in front of the cooler with the 140mm Thermalright in the middle improve cooling or would that just be dumb?
     
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Thanks for the replies. So, on the NH-D15S, a single 140mm Thermalright TY-147A will cool better than two 120mm Phanteks PH-120MP_BK PWM (I can't find the Cooljag; the stock fan is seriously ugly, not to mention it won't match my chassis fans)? Would adding a 120mm Phanteks in front of the cooler with the 140mm Thermalright in the middle improve cooling or would that just be dumb?


The reason you go with the Thermalright is the same reason you would go with a retail NF-A15. When you use that 1200 RPM + the stock fan + LNA (also 1200 rpm) you get a quieter heatsink that matches the cooling of the single stock fan without LNA at 1500 rpm. An TY-147A is cheaper than buying another NF-A15.

 

You would not run the NH-D15 without that stock fan, however. It came with the heatsink, so it is free. And it's a great fan. You simply want to mate it with the TY-147A -- two slower fans are quieter than one faster fan. As I said, run the Noctua with the LNA. Try it with the Noctua in the middle and the Thermalright in the middle. One of the two arrangements will be cooler by a degree or so.

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