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post #61 of 1515
Most reviewers use case systems to test in with room ambient as base temp, but do not monitor cooler intake air temp rolleyes.gif
Room temperature is really worthless. It's the temperature of air going in to cooler that is important, not what the room temperature is. rolleyes.gif
Their tests results are how well their system is cooling in their room.
I don't have their system or their room.
I could care less how well their system cools.
I want to know how well the cooler being tested cools.

Just changing coolers in a system usually changes the case airflow and therefor cooler intake air temp... Changing cooler fans does too. wink.gif
post #62 of 1515
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Room temperature is really worthless. It's the temperature of air going in to cooler that is important, not what the room temperature is.

Agreed, delta change of cpu temp over motherboard temp is a better, easier and more consistent measurement IMO. Of course the problem with that is that the mobo thermistor is located in different places on different mobos, so the mobo would have to be the same for comparisons.
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Agreed, delta change of cpu temp over motherboard temp is a better, easier and more consistent measurement IMO. Of course the problem with that is that the mobo thermistor is located in different places on different mobos, so the mobo would have to be the same for comparisons.
So motherboard temp cannot be used universally for testing.

So we are back to monitoring the air temp going into cooler.
  • It's simple.
  • It's cheap.
  • It gives an accurate baseline temp for all testers to use to determine a delta temp

All that is needed is a cheapo digital
indoor / outdoor wired remote sensor thermometer. A piece of stiff wire on last 23cm with a clamp to hold it. All insulated so cannot short out to anything.
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Edited by doyll - 4/20/14 at 3:00am
post #64 of 1515
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I have not seen any reviews where the U14 and any of the tandem towers (D14, D15, Phanteks, Silver Arrow, etc etc) have been tested on 2011 cpu's like the Ivy Bridge - E, where there is not TIM but solder. Only there will you see the tandem tower heatsinks really show their stuff.
I am not impressed with the current reviews I have seen. I am willing to look at some more, if they have cpu's that fully tax the heatsinks.

You won't really expect me to link Haswell/Ivy bridge benchmarks. The oc3d link I posted tested a 3930K@1.35V so. Anyone who buys a nh-d14/d15 for Haswell/Ivy is doing it wrong unless you want to fill the empty space in your case up.

Their singletower coolers are impressive, literally the best out and honestly it destroys any 120mm AIO, my enermax 120x (silverstone oem TD02) isn't doing better.
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I am not impressed with the current reviews I have seen. I am willing to look at some more, if they have cpu's that fully tax the heatsinks.

Half of them don't even know how to apply thermal paste properly. Spreading it out, doing line method or using way too much. This is how much you really need for S2011: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pC7fdhet5qA/TUOwll2SXUI/AAAAAAAAA_M/PdkYX0EUBsw/s1600/dollop.jpg

They still fail to pick the right cpu out, it's so stupid to use haswell cpu's


Thank you for pointing out the OC3D again. I had not noticed they are using Ivy-E. That said, their delta temps look suspiciously low. Now, is it my imagination, or on the 4.4GHz test in that last chart, is the D14 running 10c cooler than the U14 (44.33c delta vs 54.1c)?


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post #65 of 1515
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So we are back to monitoring the air temp going into cooler.

It's simple.
It's cheap.
It gives an accurate baseline temp for all testers to use to determine a delta temp
As long as the same digital thermometer and its placement is used for all tests. Any of the common thermometers have an accuracy of +/- 2F at best or could be much worse.
    
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post #66 of 1515
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As long as the same digital thermometer and its placement is used for all tests. Any of the common thermometers have an accuracy of +/- 2F at best or could be much worse.
Accuracy of ±02f is ±1℃, and that is as accurate as room thermometers and motherboards are. I figure at least ±2c for most reviews.
Edited by doyll - 4/20/14 at 4:22am
post #67 of 1515
Hi all. Just sub'ing and will be joining. I have my NH-D15 sitting here next to me now. What do you want to see? I am going to unbox video then install. Anything else?

Oh ya. It will be the heart of my new build, I got ideas! Or voices in my head, they have ideas, I must obey.
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post #68 of 1515
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Hi all. Just sub'ing and will be joining. I have my NH-D14 sitting here next to me now. What do you want to see? I am going to unbox video then install. Anything else?

Oh ya. It will be the heart of my new build, I got ideas! Or voices in my head, they have ideas, I must obey.
Want to run that by me one more time? tongue.gif
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post #69 of 1515
You are right. Darn typo. 15. I mean D15
 
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Just don't argue with yourself... That's a hard one to win.
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