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I want a build that can reach 60fps in BF4 on 1080p max settings but I dont need anti aliasing and stuff like that.

I'm talking about multiplayer not campaign, I know they have performance differences.

It doesn't have to be a "stable" 60fps, I dont mind if the frames drop to 40 every once in a while, just not frequently.

I dont have a legitimate budget but I dont want to spend more then what is necessary for my performance needs, for example if I can get 60fps with a $500 build then please DO NOT recommend a $900 build because its more "future proof" or it "looks cooler".

I want a 1tb HDD

Thanks smile.gif
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Originally Posted by gizmo J View Post

I want a build that can reach 60fps in BF4 on 1080p max settings but I dont need anti aliasing and stuff like that.

I'm talking about multiplayer not campaign, I know they have performance differences.

It doesn't have to be a "stable" 60fps, I dont mind if the frames drop to 40 every once in a while, just not frequently.

I dont have a legitimate budget but I dont want to spend more then what is necessary for my performance needs, for example if I can get 60fps with a $500 build then please DO NOT recommend a $900 build because its more "future proof" or it "looks cooler".

I want a 1tb HDD

Thanks smile.gif

You say that now until BF5 or some other crazy game you want to play doesn't reach 60fps and you'll have to spend even more money just to get the performance. If you have the money you might as well spend it. We will also need to know some other information as well:

Where do you live?
What is your actual budget?
What is your brand preference? (AMD, Nvidia, Intel, etc)
Are you going to Overclock?

Edit: Here is a random build I just threw together knowing nothing of what you want beside your on the fence about being cheap.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3oXKu
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3oXKu/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3oXKu/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.79 @ DirectCanada)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)

Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.99 @ NCIX)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($86.64 @ DirectCanada)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($168.15 @ DirectCanada)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX)

Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($292.50 @ Vuugo)

Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX)

Total: $1641.59

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-09 16:20 EDT-0400)

2nd edit - Thanks Shilka.
Edited by NexusRed - 4/9/14 at 1:21pm
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Sory no the NZXT HALE 82 V2 is a terrible PSU, Even has a whole thread on it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1461934/why-you-should-not-buy-an-nzxt-hale-82-v2
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Originally Posted by gizmo J View Post

I want a build that can reach 60fps in BF4 on 1080p max settings but I dont need anti aliasing and stuff like that.

I'm talking about multiplayer not campaign, I know they have performance differences.

It doesn't have to be a "stable" 60fps, I dont mind if the frames drop to 40 every once in a while, just not frequently.

I dont have a legitimate budget but I dont want to spend more then what is necessary for my performance needs, for example if I can get 60fps with a $500 build then please DO NOT recommend a $900 build because its more "future proof" or it "looks cooler".

I want a 1tb HDD

Thanks smile.gif
$500, not possible to play on max. Not even close. You would probably need closer to $1000 to play it on max, even with frame dips and without AA.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($433.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $977.89 before MIR, $921.88 after, but 2 of them are a $5 and $10 respectively, so bring that up to $936.
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Actually if you turn on mantle you can benefit alot so it shouldnt be that big of an issue to build a system that can manage bf4 multiplayer at 1080p at 60 fps. To be honest though, its kinda pointless to run everything on "ultra", but a combination of ultra/high/medium will be a better idea. For example I drive alot of tanks in bf4 and therfore I have texture on ultra because I want to see enemies clear, and other options on medium like ground etc. But you cant go wrong with a i5 4670k and a r9 290 with non-reference cooler. Thats probably the most performance you can get for the money. ´

The package that Nexus made is good, but im not sure about asrock motherboards for haswell. What I like with the system is that it has 1tb disk for stuff like music, movies, document etc, and a 250gb SSD for OS and a couple of demanding games. Whats totally overkill is the expensive case, almost 300 dollars. I would choose a cheaper case. The cooling could maybe gotten better like a corsair liqud or similar. I would take the gigabyte g1 sniper z87 motherboard, it seem to be a very good gamer/OC board for a cheap price. I dont know about the psu, I would take a 600w one modular just for the "lulz".
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3oY7J
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3oY7J/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3oY7J/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($312.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 500W ATX Power Supply ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $658.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-09 16:32 EDT-0400)
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OP whats your budget really? To me, its totally "not-smart" to not get stuff that might be a little bit more future proof. For example not getting a SSD because "it only reduce the load times and dont give any more fps". First get your priorities straight, few people play bf4 or any game fully maxed out because it sucks and all that eye candy is not worth it if fps is decreased too much. How ever there are better and worse gaming systems in general terms. Build a soild system first and then tweak graphics settings so you get suitable min and max fps. While AMD cpus might be a better and cheaper choice for BF4 alone (because it use many cores), in general AMD cpus are a rather poor choice. Also where do you live, and where do you intend to buy your stuff, you live in US or CA?
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Western Digital WD15EADS 1.5TB Samsung 840 250GB Crucial MX100 256GB Alphacool Eisblock XPX 
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Alphacool ST30 360mm Alphacool ST30 140mm Alphacool Eisbecher 150mm Alphacool VPP655 
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AMD play all current games just fine, and as BF4 illustrates; are better at future games. The 3570/4670k are great cpus, but in all honestly I quickly see a FX 6300 or 8320 doing better as games are more and more multithreaded to take advantage of the additional cores AMD offers. Continuing to recommend a quad core intel over a 6-8 core AMD reminds me of when people were recommending the E8400 over the Q6600 because the E8400 overclocked higher and no game will ever need more than 2 cores .... right ?
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Well I wouldnt say AMD is more future proof, because each core is weaker. Few games support multicore and even if they will do it in future, it doubt a AMD will perform better than current intel quads. Its not about the cored, its about the cpu design and AMD is lacking here. Also by the time you needed quads to play games back in the days, the q6600 was alreaddy too old and weak anyways, so you are kinda wrong. Which games has actually become more multithreaded except bf3 and bf4, there are not many. And even in those intel i5 is on pair or better despite less cores I believe. In fact amd had 6 cores 3 years ago but they were totally beaten by intel i5 2500k in so many ways in all games, specially in bf3 despite 2 more cores. Hell even those old intel 6 core cpus performed smilar in bf3 as the i5 2500k I believe. Just because game use more cores or threads doesnt mean a cpu with more cores will pefform better and give more fps. i5 is a epic cpu, not because its a quad, but because the whole design. Many games still dont use more than 2 cores, but that doesnt matter because the older dual core and quads are too weak in all possible ways.
Edited by PachAz - 4/9/14 at 2:04pm
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3oYl6
Base Total: $669.90
Mail-in Rebates: -$25.00
Shipping: $9.97
Total: $654.87
This includes Windows 7, Keyboard and mouse and You can change the case to anything you want, an i3 is fine for BF4 and the 750ti means you can choose Smaller PSUs, and its also Low Profile compatible for HTPC - Cases.
If you already have windows 7 take 99$ off of this and thats a smokin cheap PC that has Very Respectable parts for what it is.
Part List and price break down (Click to show)
Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processer................................... |$129.99 Microcenter
MSI H81M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard.................................|$44.99 Microcenter
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive................|$59.99 Newegg
Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card..................................................|$159.99 Newegg
Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case...............................|$36.99 Newegg
Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply................|$39.99 Newegg
Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer.................................................|$16.99 Newegg
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64)..............................|$99.99 Newegg
Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse............................|$17.99 Newegg
Total: $654.87
Total without Windows 7: $552.89
BF4 $30 (Click to show)
750ti Benchmarks AA ON! (Click to show) I have a GTX 660 and at those settings I get about the same frame rate but as soon as I turn off AA I get 60FPS+ But my card is also more expensive. Without Win7 You could Purchase one.
So all in all with BF4 your looking at $689~ Without Windows 7 its about $584 If you have an off the shelf PC with 64bit Win7 you can create an install disk with the Win7 Iso thats the same as it and just re-use the code.. Thats what I did, spent the extra on a Cooler and Better Graphics Card.
AND YES AN i3 IS FINE FOR BF4!!! - http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html
The I3 3220 Scored better than the AMD FX 6300! Similar price, and the I3-4340 has Hyperthreading!
Experience Level: I build PC's for friends and family and to sell.
Edited by xelectroxwolfx - 4/9/14 at 2:08pm
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