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$500, not possible to play on max. Not even close. You would probably need closer to $1000 to play it on max, even with frame dips and without AA.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($433.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $977.89 before MIR, $921.88 after, but 2 of them are a $5 and $10 respectively, so bring that up to $936.

Umm what, it doesn't take an R9-290 to play BF4 at 60 fps 1080 without AA. In fact, you could play BF4 at 1600p on a 290 60 fps without AA. A 760 or 270x can run the game without aa 60 fps 1080.
 
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any i5 cpu , any mobo with the right socket, any dual 4g of ram, the 1 tb hdd and a 280x , i think it s must be under 800 easy.
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Just in the few days some of the prices of the builds have changed
This one used to be $736 and now its $769! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pm1F
EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS DO NOT TAKE AN INTEL BUILD OUT OF THE QUESTION IT IS JUST AS VIABLE IF NOT PERFORMS BETTER IN SOME CASES!!! Now if you were going to use this for encoding/work/ rendering an i5 or FX 8350 would be better, BUT FOR STRICTLY GAMING PERFORMANCE AN i3 IS PERFECT! Not only that but with a TDP of 54W you will save $10 a year on electricity lmao!
Core i3 vs fx6300 http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/3/ In many games it preforms on par with the i5 4670. THAT is why i suggest it for this budget. AND it outperforms the fx6300 by about 10fps in single player. I know there are performance differences but there is no relaible way to test these in multiplayer.

AMD FX6300 + GTX 760 + 450w 80+ Gold PSU + OS + BF4 - $769.90 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pm1F Playing BF4 at your Designated Settings
4thgen Core i3 + GTX760 + 450w 80+ Gold PSU + OS + BF4 - $789.90 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pS3E Playing BF4 at your Designated Settings
AMD FX6300 + GTX 660 + 450w 80+ Gold PSU + OS + BF4 - $679.90 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pS8k Playing BF4 at slightly Lower Settings
4thgen Core i3 + GTX660 + 450w 80+ Gold PSU + OS + BF4 - $699.90 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pScH Playing BF4 at slightly Lower Settings*
Thats the last time im going to post builds until OP replies, Prices change so fast its ludicris to suggest 500 builds and by the time he comes to buy it everything has changed!
But what we can agree on is the least common denominator for parts.
Intel to stay under 800 and still have good settings in BF4 we need to choose an i3, but like i said there is nothing wrong with that! You could always sacrifice GPU money but in that case the AMD side is instantly the winner for more FPS. However the i3 pulls ahead in many games by 10-20 fps, and much lower frametime. In SOME games it outpreforms the fx 8350.
  • AMD i wouldnt suggest anything Lower than FX6300
  • GPU wouldnt suggest anything lower than GTX660 or ATI equal - UNLESS this puts all suggested builds outside of OP's Budget.
  • No power supplies lower than 450w I know my suggested builds have it, but I must say that is one of the BEST psu's your going to get in that price range for a single GPU solution.
  • we can debate motherboards till the pigs come flying home but in the end unless he wants to overclock he isnt going to need those price premium boards. Important thing is Cheaper- but higher Quality I know MSI uses military class Solid Caps even on their lower end boards, the heatsinks may not be as pretty but they still function just as they should.
  • No lower than 8gb Ram
  • No lower than 1tb HDD
  • Must Include OS (as far as we know)
  • Should include BF4- its just $30 but still its an important thing to factor in just like if he needs speakers/KB and mouse
With all that in Mind would you suggest the above builds to the OP?
What would you change on the 4 I suggested?
Why?

TY, Hope I helped OP. And will return when I see you post again.
Edited by xelectroxwolfx - 4/11/14 at 6:47am
post #104 of 122
@ OP - it's impossible to build a $500 PC that will handle BF4 at max. To upgrade, yes it's possible but not completely new.

Keep saving.
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For $500, you'd barely be able to afford a gfx card that can achieve 60FPS@1080p@max - see the benchmarked results from TPU for proof:


Looks like you'll need a GTX780 to get ~60FPS at max, sorry.

a benchmark isn't gameplay.

a 270x will have no issues running ultra at 60fps. Will have dips into the 50's, but it'll be in the 50-70 range.
benchmarks are suppose to stress the card and provide a comparison. it's not a demonstration of gameplay
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1479420/phenom-ii-x4-940-black-gigabyte-ma790x-ud4p-4gb-ocz-reaper-ddr2-reduced/0_100

I think for a strictly 500 dollar build, this would be the best kit to go with within our marketplace, then he should have money to spare for the proper GPU of choice, PSU and HDD.

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PSU, case, HDD are mostly irrelevant to play BF4 on high/ultra. Hell I'd say even the CPU for the most part is irrelevant.

The GPU is the key factor here. The game is a GPU intensive. So I'd say at minimum a GTX 770 or AMDs counterpart.
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PSU, case, HDD are mostly irrelevant to play BF4 on high/ultra. Hell I'd say even the CPU for the most part is irrelevant.

The GPU is the key factor here. The game is a GPU intensive. So I'd say at minimum a GTX 770 or AMDs counterpart.

I wouldnt say their irrelevant, they still cost you, regardless of their peak performance levels. Though PSU can and will display crappy performance if you skip out on it. Thus with this bundle, you save yourself some cash, and free shipping. No one should ever skimp on the PSU, ever. Now please bear in mind thats not me saying you have to spend more money, just have to make sure the unit in question is of quality standards.

How much more intensive is BF4 over BF3? Only reason I ask is because I max out BF3 around 60-70% GPU utilization with 755m SLI @ stock. I dont think a 770 is needed at all for no AA Ultra.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1480828/sapphire-hd-7870-oc-2gb-aoc-24-led-lcd-monitor/0_100

7870 should suffice.

That still leaves breathing room for PSU, HDD and case
    
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I wouldnt say their irrelevant, they still cost you, regardless of their peak performance levels. Though PSU can and will display crappy performance if you skip out on it. Thus with this bundle, you save yourself some cash, and free shipping. No one should ever skimp on the PSU, ever. Now please bear in mind thats not me saying you have to spend more money, just have to make sure the unit in question is of quality standards.

How much more intensive is BF4 over BF3? Only reason I ask is because I max out BF3 around 60-70% GPU utilization with 755m SLI @ stock. I dont think a 770 is needed at all for no AA Ultra.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1480828/sapphire-hd-7870-oc-2gb-aoc-24-led-lcd-monitor/0_100

7870 should suffice.

That still leaves breathing room for PSU, HDD and case

BF3 and BF4 are different animals. On the video card side, BF4 is definitely more demanding. On the CPU side, it becomes weird. On my FX 8320 in BF3, my framerate drops into the 40's pretty regularly due to a CPU limitation. I'm not sure why, but that doesn't happen on my wife's i5 3570k build. However, neither system can max out our GPU configs, even at max settings. My GTX 780 consistently runs @ 50-70% utilization on max @ 1920x1200. CPU only goes a little bit above 50% utilization.

On BF4, by comparison. My CPU can reach as high as 75-80% utilization, and my GPU is @ 95-99% at ultra preset and 1920x1200. However, the framerate is significantly higher, averaging about 80 FPS.

All things considered, BF4 is far more optimized for multi-core CPU's, but it also requires a more beefy GPU to play the game well. If you're trying to play BF3, I'd have to recommend an i5 Sandy/Ivy/Haswell quad core. They just run BF3 better.
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Yeah, makes sense. I dont play BF4 for personal reasons but since I already have 3 I use it as reference.

I sometimes run into the same issues you speak of, albeit rarely. The biggest problem I have is origin itself, though thats another can of worms OT from the thread.

What do you think of the Phenom II 940 combo I posted from the marketplace? I know its dated by now but its still viable for an extreme budget build with the target goal in mind. Should do well with a 7870 I would believe
    
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