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Not saying you can't. But the first build offered was $1600+. Not a budget build. I'm not saying that there's bashing going on. But I wanted to make sure that it did not devolve into one of those types of threads. There were a few posts early on that could have led to a bashfest.
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Not saying you can't. But the first build offered was $1600+. Not a budget build. I'm not saying that there's bashing going on. But I wanted to make sure that it did not devolve into one of those types of threads. There were a few posts early on that could have led to a bashfest.

Yeah that happens sometimes. We still don't know the actual budget but think I'm liking mad pistols the most right now. it even includes the os.

The problem with bf4 is that most reviews are in campaign and multiplayer is a whole other beast which apperently taxes the CPU a lot more. That's mostly why I'm favoring mad pistols or an i5 build. Being mobile doesn't make it easy to spec a build tongue.gif
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OP,i'd advise you get a non-reference 290 from ebay for less than $400, if you are comfortable with shopping there.
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Yeah that happens sometimes. We still don't know the actual budget but think I'm liking mad pistols the most right now. it even includes the os.

The problem with bf4 is that most reviews are in campaign and multiplayer is a whole other beast which apperently taxes the CPU a lot more. That's mostly why I'm favoring mad pistols or an i5 build. Being mobile doesn't make it easy to spec a build tongue.gif

Exactly. For BF4 to run at its peak, you need to have either an FX-83xx or a quad core i5 (or better). BF4 thrives in a multi-core environment. I have a video that will be uploaded over night that will show you what I mean. Even an FX-8320 @ stock can handle multiplayer at a nearly constant 60+ FPS with drops into the high 50's. The framerate averages over 100 FPS, which is astounding for such a "cheap" CPU. tongue.gif

The video I'm going to upload has a minimum framerate in the 70's, and that's on a 64-player server. It's hard to argue with that. wink.gif
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Here.

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That. Kill it with fire.
There is NEVER a reason to go to a bulldozer. The 4-core bulldozer chip is SLOWER then the Pentium chips. Spend the $20 and get the piledriver always.
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Hello its me the thread starter.

Now I'm thinking that when playing 64 players I dont need max setings@60fps, That would be reserved for 32players and under. For 64 players I only need high@40fps

Also I was thinking about this build, would it be enough?

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)

Overclocked this is a good value CPU for gaming, without overclocking, the per-thread performance is pretty bad. Go with an i3-4130 if you're not going to buy an overclocking board and HSF.
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Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.67 @ Amazon)
This would be a good motherboard for testing the viability of BF4 as a fire starter.

The Asus M5A97 R2.0 and Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P are about the minimum to run an FX-6300 at high enough clocks to be worth running at all. If you live near a microcenter, you can get the UD3P for just $50 in a combo with the FX-6300. If you're not going to overclock, lets pick out a decent B85 board and stick an i3 on it.
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Memory: Crucial 2GB (1 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($20.09 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill AEGIS 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.00 @ Newegg)
Just get a 2x4GB for ~$65-75.
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Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
This would be fine for an i3 build, avoid this for an FX-6300 build. You'll want something that supports an ATX board and plenty of air-flow to run the FX-6300 hard.
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Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Most of the cheap EVGA PSUs are made by HEC, and are garbage quality, some of the highest failure rates among popular PSUs. Avoid.



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I used that exact case op for my moms pc build... and I will tell you it is a tight case.. and may have some trouble fitting larger graphics cards let alone keeping them cool.
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Exactly. For BF4 to run at its peak, you need to have either an FX-83xx or a quad core i5 (or better). BF4 thrives in a multi-core environment. I have a video that will be uploaded over night that will show you what I mean. Even an FX-8320 @ stock can handle multiplayer at a nearly constant 60+ FPS with drops into the high 50's. The framerate averages over 100 FPS, which is astounding for such a "cheap" CPU. tongue.gif

The video I'm going to upload has a minimum framerate in the 70's, and that's on a 64-player server. It's hard to argue with that. wink.gif
The question is what settings and graphics card. That 780 your using is Literally more twice the price of my GTX660,When I said Firestorm is THE most taxing map in multiplayer I meant it, as you could see in the video everything was ultra but aa and aa post were off, now if I had lowered say lighting to medium turned off hbao completely It wouldnt have dipped as low. Remember its not because of the cpu, my i7 with all cores does the same thing, Low to medium settings I play at 144fps with my asus vg24. So the 50-70 dollars spent on a "better" cpu could be spent on a 760 @250. If you notkce in the top left hand corner it says 4 cores two threads, the i3 has hyperthreading the i5 doesnt but you cant easily make it run on all four cores which is why an I3 is fine for bf4. My i5 ran only two threads of bf4 anyways, and not to be apart of that amd vs intel crap. But only in HIGHLY threaded applications does an fx6300 beat an i3, the i3 is excellent everywhere else. Also the i3 chips through out less heat than the i5' and fx 8000 series which in a case that small is important.
Edited by xelectroxwolfx - 4/10/14 at 6:58am
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Please OP can you tell us your budget, can you also tell us if you plan to play BF4 only, or other games.? If you are very tight on budget ie not able to spend a buck or two more then a fx8320 will be a good choice in bf4 because it performs according to some people similar to a i5 4670k in bf4 multiplayer, but for less money. If you live in US, I would choose these things, please correct me if you know more/cheaper prices on same items.

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Around 830 dollars.
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Hello its me the thread starter.

Now I'm thinking that when playing 64 players I dont need max setings@60fps, That would be reserved for 32players and under. For 64 players I only need high@40fps

Also I was thinking about this build, would it be enough?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3p8RF
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3p8RF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3p8RF/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.67 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial 2GB (1 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($20.09 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill AEGIS 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($236.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $675.68
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I think your right on track with that gtx 760. Anything lower and you might not get the performance you want, with Mail in rebate thats about $ 216 which isnt bad!
However, I will say, you will need more than 4gb of ram, 8 should be a standard, and some games will not run with less than 8gb of ram. Consider these -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144699&clickid=wNzxsMyKgUy-S0KTA4zuPyftUkTQeoQZTwQE2s0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na

WD has better warranty plans and overall less failure rate than Seagate but thats just my own experiences I am sure someone will comment on that, but otherwise thats fine.
500w is fine for a single GPU solution but there are better ones out there for that price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 for 56~ and its 80+ Gold, Now i Know its only 450w but that is Guaranteed the proper output for that PSU, my friend went with a $20 Diablotek PSU 500W and is running it in his PC with a GTX660 but In reality it only outputs ~350w and is a ticking time bomb, DONT SKIMP ON PSU EVER.. just a really bad idea. 450w should be fine for a Single GPU solution. And the Next Gen 800 series Maxwell cards are Energy effiecient and dont require as much wattage, Heck the 750ti runs just off the PCI-E lane!! Thats why i suggested it earlier.
This silverstone Case costs $7 more and has usb 3.0 ports on the front and is just better quality over all. Should be easier to build and be better cooled than that one --->http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A1ZU1I0/?tag=pcpapi-20
Check out this one its $736 with OS and BF4 -->http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pm1F
AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99@Newegg)
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99@NCIX US)
GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99@Newegg)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99@NCIX US)
MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20@Newegg)
Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99@Amazon)
Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @Newegg)
Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99@Newegg)
Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99@NCIX US)
Battlefield 4 ($29.99@Amazon)
Total: $736 with Shipping
Its AMD, I dont hate amd I just Recommend Intel when applicable, the fx6300 is cheaper, and its hard to argue with that, when talking straight Price per performance.
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This is what I would do. This route gives you a fast 240GB SSD and a decent Z87 motherboard so that you can easily upgrade to an i7-4770K down the road if you wish (and still be able to overclock without changing boards). This setup also lets you easily upgrade to 16GB of RAM by simply adding another 8GB stick. You can choose to use a better PSU for about $20-30 more if you wish, but that CX600 is more than enough for a Haswell CPU and a single 660Ti.

Roughly $750 before operating system, with a Haswell Core i5, 240GB SSD, and GTX 660 Ti.

None of the prices use Microcenter special combo deals. It would be even cheaper if you had a Microcenter nearby and could do the CPU/motherboard combo deals. You'll need some misc. things like optical drive/mouse/keyboard if you don't already have them lying around, but they should be quite inexpensive.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $753.43
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5 GHz SFF Box
(18 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2700K @ 5.0 GHz, 1.38V Asus Maximus IV GENE Asus GTX 670 DC II 4x4GB Samsung 30nm @ DDR3-2133 9-9-9-21 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M3 SSD WD Velociraptor 500GB WD Caviar Black 1TB WD Caviar Green 2TB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright HR-02 (GT AP-15 Push/Pull) Windows 7 Pro x64 LG 27" 2560x1440 S-IPS (Calibrated with Eye-One) CM Quickfire Rapid 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-750 Silverstone SG09 Logitech MX518 Steelseries QcK 
Audio
Asus Xonar DX + Shure SRH840 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3570K Gigabyte H61N-USB3 Mini-ITX 2x4GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 Samsung 830 128GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD Scorpio Blue 500GB Win 7 Pro x64 Antec 90W DC-DC/Delta power brick Antec ISK 110 
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5 GHz SFF Box
(18 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2700K @ 5.0 GHz, 1.38V Asus Maximus IV GENE Asus GTX 670 DC II 4x4GB Samsung 30nm @ DDR3-2133 9-9-9-21 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M3 SSD WD Velociraptor 500GB WD Caviar Black 1TB WD Caviar Green 2TB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright HR-02 (GT AP-15 Push/Pull) Windows 7 Pro x64 LG 27" 2560x1440 S-IPS (Calibrated with Eye-One) CM Quickfire Rapid 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-750 Silverstone SG09 Logitech MX518 Steelseries QcK 
Audio
Asus Xonar DX + Shure SRH840 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3570K Gigabyte H61N-USB3 Mini-ITX 2x4GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 Samsung 830 128GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD Scorpio Blue 500GB Win 7 Pro x64 Antec 90W DC-DC/Delta power brick Antec ISK 110 
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