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This is what I would do. This route gives you a fast 240GB SSD and a decent Z87 motherboard so that you can easily upgrade to an i7-4770K down the road if you wish. This setup also lets you easily upgrade to 16GB of RAM by simply adding another 8GB stick.

$750 before operating system, with a Haswell i5, 240GB SSD, and GTX 660 Ti.

It would be even cheaper if you had a Microcenter nearby and could do the CPU/motherboard combo deals. You'll need some misc. things like optical drive/mouse/keyboard if you don't already have them lying around, but they should be quite inexpensive.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $753.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-10 12:19 EDT-0400)
Only 2 real problems with this build. First one being the GPU. Why use older tech when the new stuff is just as cheap. GTX 760
2, the PSU is crap for gaming builds, this Rosewill Capstone should replace it.
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This is what I would do. This route gives you a fast 240GB SSD and a decent Z87 motherboard so that you can easily upgrade to an i7-4770K down the road if you wish. This setup also lets you easily upgrade to 16GB of RAM by simply adding another 8GB stick.

$750 before operating system, with a Haswell i5, 240GB SSD, and GTX 660 Ti.

It would be even cheaper if you had a Microcenter nearby and could do the CPU/motherboard combo deals. You'll need some misc. things like optical drive/mouse/keyboard if you don't already have them lying around, but they should be quite inexpensive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $753.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-10 12:19 EDT-0400)
Only 2 real problems with this build. First one being the GPU. Why use older tech when the new stuff is just as cheap. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745&clickid=xpyXl8zixVNfR7NUDBQ3FwXUUkTQbmQMEwCtys0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
2, the PSU is crap for gaming builds, this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066&clickid=xpyXl8zixVNfR7NUDBQ3FwXUUkTQbjxAEwCtys0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na should replace it.

GTX 660Ti is based on the same GK104 as the GTX 760, 770, etc. It's last-gen but not really "old-tech". Just like the R9 280X is basically a re-badged HD 7970.

The 660Ti has 1344 shaders while the 760 only has 1152 tongue.gif. They're similar in speed when stock but the 660Ti should have a bit more potential after overclocking, IMO. That's why I didn't choose the 760 you linked over the 660Ti, especially when the 660Ti is $30 cheaper.

The PSU I included in the build (Corsair CX) isn't the best, but it will be more than fine to run a single GTX 660 Ti and a Core i5/i7. The i5 I linked + a GTX 660 draw about 225-250W combined at max load tongue.gif. OP can of course upgrade the PSU to a better unit for around $20 more, but that's not a major point, since it won't change the price much.
Edited by 996gt2 - 4/10/14 at 9:41am
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AMD play all current games just fine, and as BF4 illustrates; are better at future games. The 3570/4670k are great cpus, but in all honestly I quickly see a FX 6300 or 8320 doing better as games are more and more multithreaded to take advantage of the additional cores AMD offers. Continuing to recommend a quad core intel over a 6-8 core AMD reminds me of when people were recommending the E8400 over the Q6600 because the E8400 overclocked higher and no game will ever need more than 2 cores .... right ?

'hahahhahahahaha i needed a good laugh for 1 a 4670k@4.6 beats an 8350@4.8 in MULTITHREAD cinebench, also gets 200% faster single core. Also takes 166watts vs the 8350 taking 315 watts @ 4.8.
Also a 6300 at stock clocks is at 100% load in bf4. Its pretty much obsolete.

I know this stuff cuss i OWN IT>

"Key words here guys: post-purchase rationalization.

Now, why would anyone go ahead and buy AMD CPUs when they want to game? Could be fanboyism, could be lack of awareness or it could be that you wanted to show off an 8-core processor to your buddies, who knows? I'm pretty sure most people with AMD chips in this thread knew very well what they were getting into when they decided to buy an FX-chip and now they are trying to justify their purchase by posting ridiculous things to make themselves feel better."
Edited by Dragonsyph - 4/10/14 at 9:38am
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($152.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $598.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-10 12:59 EDT-0400)

That would probably be about the bare minimum for BF4 on high. Honestly, drop the money and get a 4670k/8320 build so you don't have to do this again for the next game.
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Well now that we've all put our $20's in. I wanna hear from OP. What does OP think of all this?
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I use both the fx6300 and 3770k to game and honestly both game fine. The core CPU MB was $200 for the fx and $400 for the i7 and that's buying the i7 for $100 off on OCN marketplace.
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If you guys don't believe me about the FX 8320 being a great chip for BF4, check this video.

CPU @ stock
GTX 780 @ 60% power target and 60C temp target.

In this video, my 780 is running about as fast as a GTX 750 Ti. Watch what happens. thumb.gif
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Ok, lets do this. I will also include a Windows 8.1 OS as well as that will be a necessity to hit the performance level you want.

CPU: AMD FX-8320: $151.99
Motherboard: ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 - $135.98
Memory: HyperX 8GB DDR3 1600mhz - $64.99
Video Card: eVGA GTX 750 Ti - $154.99
Power Supply: Rosewill CAPSTONE-550-M - $84.99
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Computer case - $49.20
Hard Drive: Segate Barracuda 1TB HDD - $58.24
OS: Windows 8.1 64-bit OEM - $99.99

Grand Total before shipping: $800.37

This build basically costs the same as the Core i5-4430 build I listed above (+/- $50 once Windows is factored in), and doesn't even come with an SSD. Not to mention the 750Ti is a much weaker GPU than the 660 Ti, and the 8320 is a worse overall CPU compared to the quad core i5.

I don't see the point in OP going AMD unless he is on an extreme budget (<$600).
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This build basically costs the same as the Core i5-4430 build I listed above (+/- $50 once Windows is factored in), and doesn't even come with an SSD. Not to mention the 750Ti is a much weaker GPU than the 660 Ti, and the 8320 is a worse overall CPU compared to the quad core i5.

I don't see the point in OP going AMD unless he is on an extreme budget (<$600).

What I see wrong with your build:
  • An i5 4430 is a locked CPU, and it costs more than the FX 8320.
  • The OP requires an 1TB HDD. An SSD is out of his budget unless he specifies.
  • The case is worse
  • That motherboard... yuck. (it's paper thin)
  • That power supply is terrible compared to the one I chose. It's a cheap piece of junk.
  • And you didn't include the OS, which costs $100, not $50.


If you want him to have crap, feel free to suggest crap. I suggested high quality components at every turn. For a build like this, the video card is not a major concern as long as it runs the game well, and a GTX 750 Ti does very well for BF4 @ medium/high settings. A GTX 760 (which is faster than the 660 Ti you suggested) costs about $100 more than the 750 Ti. It is an option, but not if money is a huge factor.

You don't have to agree with me on that, but that's why we have these little discussions on this forum. rolleyes.gif
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If I should be honest I think the OPs budget is below 700 because the system he posted was very low end. Either way I dont think playing on high in bf4 is an option, possibly all medium, no AA and texture quality high, which seem like most sane anyways. In that case he can possibly run a fx6300 with 45-60 fps I guess. If we assume the OPs budget is 700, would fx6300 be a good choice then?
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