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If I should be honest I think the OPs budget is below 700 because the system he posted was very low end. Either way I dont think playing on high in bf4 is an option, possibly all medium, no AA and texture quality high, which seem like most sane anyways. In that case he can possibly run a fx6300 with 45-60 fps I guess. If we assume the OPs budget is 700, would fx6300 be a good choice then?

6300 is 100% load in bf4 at stock speeds, why do so many people talk about this 3 core junker?
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If I should be honest I think the OPs budget is below 700 because the system he posted was very low end. Either way I dont think playing on high in bf4 is an option, possibly all medium, no AA and texture quality high, which seem like most sane anyways. In that case he can possibly run a fx6300 with 45-60 fps I guess. If we assume the OPs budget is 700, would fx6300 be a good choice then?

Yes, the FX 6300 is a good choice for a budget build. It also means we can go lower on the AM3+ motherboard as well then if we were to get the FX 8320. The FX 6300's power requirements are a good bit lower.
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6300 is 100% load in bf4 at stock speeds, why do so many people talk about this 3 core junker?

That 3 core junker (lolwut?) can play BF4 easily, even at stock.
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Yes, the FX 6300 is a good choice for a budget build. It also means we can go lower on the AM3+ motherboard as well then if we were to get the FX 8320. The FX 6300's power requirements are a good bit lower.
That 3 core junker (lolwut?) can play BF4 easily, even at stock.

yet its at 100% load causing massive fps drops. stop telling people to buy obsolete cpus that cant even run to days games
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yet its at 100% load causing massive fps drops. stop telling people to buy obsolete cpus that cant even run to days games

100% CPU usage is a good thing. It means the CPU is being utilized correctly. There has to be another reason you're getting framerate drops.
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100% CPU usage is a good thing. It means the CPU is being utilized correctly. There has to be another reason you're getting framerate drops.

No your cpu hitting 100% clearly cant handle what your doing and is the bottleneck, how are you a retired staff when you know nothing about computers lol?

Going from 6300 to i5-4670k allmost doubled my FPS in bf4 and the i5 only uses 30-60% cpu
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6300 is 100% load in bf4 at stock speeds, why do so many people talk about this 3 core junker?
Wut? You are so wrong, I'm not even sure what to think. Sure, it could be at 100% load, but even my i7-3930k could be at 100% load. Just go with 4 titan black's and in BF4 I could probably max out the CPU usage. Your point is invalid. Plus its not a 3-core, its a 1.5 core (4 "modules" per intel core).
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OP, if you actually want a balanced build, this is what I would personally go with:

Microcenter Core i5-4670K Combo with AsRock Z87 Extreme4 Motherboard: $284.98

And as for the rest:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy)

Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($312.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($82.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $727.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Grand total: $1012.89, and it will get 60+ FPS in BF4 at 1080P on high all day long. If you don't have a microcenter nearby, add about $60-80 to the total.


For that $1000, you're getting a very fast, overclockable CPU, 16GB of RAM, good motherboard, fast 240GB SSD + 1TB of hard drive storage, a fast GPU with the great Twin Frozr cooler, and a great power supply from the most trusted brand out there. Quite a good deal IMO, and it will last you for years to come.
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It really does not take $1,000 to handle BF4 great at 1080p. I've made this point to so many of my nobsole friends that insist it costs thousands to get equal performance on a PC. A good FX 8xxx CPU and GTX770/R9 280 will get the job done real nicely. I'd say $600-$700 will get the job done.

Without even diving deeply into this (as in: I just picked the first decent combo I saw) I got this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1520895

Case, motherboard, FX-8350, 8GB RAM, and 1TB HDD - $435
R9 280 - $270 after rebate for the XFX
$705 total (again, this is without even really bargain hunting)

All that's missing is a power supply.

This is all assuming you already have a monitor/other basic necessities.
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OK so I threw together another 2 builds. First build is based off the FX-8320.

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($168.25 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($149.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.38 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $740.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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The second is Intel based off the 4670K.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($142.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($149.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.38 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $884.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-10 18:40 EDT-0400)

Both builds are exactly the same hardware wise, but for the processor and motherboard. I attempted to keep cost down but give the best options I could for Budget building. Both builds would be solid. You would get more out of the Intel build, but if the truth be told, I would go with the AMD build and the money saved on on the CPU and motherboard would buy me a 2nd GPU for Crossfire or a better GPU overall.. Just a little food for thought.
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*Note*

Pissing of Retired Staff is not a good way to further your reputation in the forums. Nor is pissing off other forum members with disrespectful comments or comments that could be considered trolling. We all have our own opinions and experiences here on OCN. We all should respect each others point of views and previous experiences.

Absolutely! If we can respect each other, then we can discuss things together instead of fight about them. I am not a fanboy by any means, but I will tend to suggest items based on something I have built or used before... most people do that here.

Trust me, you guys aren't pissing me off, and if it seems like I am pissed off, then I apologize. I put a lot of thought into that build because our OP had a very specific set of guidelines:

  • Plays BF4 @ over 60 FPS
  • Not junk
  • As inexpensive as possible
  • 1TB HDD required

While an intel build is not out of his price range, a 4670k costs about $80 more than an FX 8320, and for BF4, that's $80 for a very small boost in performance. On top of that, cheaper intel boards ($140 or less) are devoid of features and usually have subpar build quality. Therefore, my immediate thought was this guy needs an FX 8320 and a quality motherboard with the $80 saved. Yes, I know my build is more expensive, but there is nothing in it that is "junk." It is all high quality components with good warranties and great reputations.

I'm here to have intelligent discussions with my peers. If you want to tell me my build is bad, be prepared for me to say something back. It's not because you're "pissing me off" though. It's because that's what you do on a forum. thumb.gif
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