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If you think that shorter loading times are not related to gaming performance, then I think that 100 fps is just like 30 fps because the eye cant see more then 30 fps, right? Good logic there. In multiplayer games, having a SSD is important because it allows you to enter game and spawn first as well as making the whole of your system faster. So yes, for the price its a very important upgrade. Luxury yes, but also important.

Unless the OP gives us a budget, this thread can be closed accrding to me becaus its turning into another intel vs amd thread, which some active and ex-mods out of personal reasons dont like.

An ssd doesnt help fps once again, just load times, once the map is loaded up there isnt an advantage

OCN member bf4 SSD vs HDD (2fps more on SSD but see scenario)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1480050/battlefield-4-benchmarks-ht-on-vs-off-win8-1-vs-win7-new-nvidia-337-50-drivers/70#post_22087031

hardocp ssd vs hdd review (page with bf4 multiplayer)
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/3#.U0dfvlRdVu0
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For $500, you'd barely be able to afford a gfx card that can achieve 60FPS@1080p@max - see the benchmarked results from TPU for proof:


Looks like you'll need a GTX780 to get ~60FPS at max, sorry.

That has to be some old numbers....I have results from hainan resort 1080p ultra preset at a mild 1200mhz/7400mhz oc on my 770 and average 71fps, min 47fps, max 95 (pre 337.50 driver). Same map with 1424mhz/7400mhz ave 76fps, min 56fps, max 104.

I should rerun that setting on ultra with 337.50 driver.
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You clearly didnt understand my irony, im aware ssd dont help with fps, but thats not why you would wanna get a ssd from the first place. Also what cpu did you test that with? A i7 2700k at 4.8ghz is as fast as you can get more or less due to HT, ofc you will get those fps. How ever a fx 6200 and a 750ti wont get 60 fps average on all ultra and this is important.
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*So the question is once again what is your REAL budget OP? Plenty of great builds for $650~$700 With GTX 760 and Win8, but you'd have to most likely go with AMD unless you don't mind an i3, upgrading later might be a thought for that one. Or is it $700~$800 more into the higher end intel builds. Many people have posted very compelling builds, we just need feedback and fighting over things isn't helping anyone.

When you give a Definitive range, we can suggest the correct builds that include everything including OS and tell you what you have to sacrifice to meet that budget or what you might want to save for, in terms of more high quality parts.
Mad Pistol, made some really good points, but in the end we need to know more. Help us help you.

Answer these questions if it makes it easier.
  • amd or intel?
  • Nvidia or ATI?
  • No preference just Price/Performance
  • Do you have your mind set on a particular Case/Overall color scheme? (Matching ram to heatsinks etc)
  • What is your apporximate budget?
  • Is this build going to stay around for a long time or do you plan on upgrading later?
  • Do any PC's you own already have Win7/8?(So you dont have to repurchase it)
  • What is your tech experience? ( We dont want to get you stuck with a really hard to put together build i.e. Case has terrible Cable Management or some components wont fit/ overheat.)
  • Would you be willing to run BF4 at slightly lower settings @60fps, inorder to stay within budget.

Answer those questions and I believe within two days you will have the perfect build for you!
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Also, it would be nice to know if peripherals like monitors and keyboard and mouse are required.
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My mobile CPU runs akin to an 8350 at stock and a gtx 660 at stock and I max out BF3 at 1080p 60fps at ultra and no AA

So I see no reason why an AMD equivalent cant handle this task with a 750Ti or equivalent, This is with everything at stock of which he can make the investment later to overclock if he deems necessary

Why does every help thread come down to members screaming at each other over the internet?

Also, OP let us know if your opposed to buying used or not, as that can push your $ further
    
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I have bf4 (have to dload and install) 3770k fx6300 and 5870, 7950, 280x and 290

So let's get a Intel CPU close to the cost of one of those setups and compare

Ie...
Fx6300($110) + 290 (400) vs 4670k($220) + 750/r270 ($180) vs 4770k ($320) + $80

Fx6300($110) + 280x ($275) vs ??

Fx6300 ($110) + 7950 ($185) vs ?

MB has to be z87 so around $100 and my fx cost $100 but we will say $110. Every amount CPU is over $110 GPU has to lose that amount.

No turning off cores since that isn't truly representative
Edited by CravinR1 - 4/11/14 at 12:10am
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I think you missed the point of said test

I think your missing the spirit of OCN man, their is no reason to be hostile, Mad Pistol at least provides personal benchmarks as well as references to back his claims. Please respect that and return in kind.
    
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Please keep personal comments out of your discussions gentlemen.

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FX-8320 vs i5-4570 vs FX-6300


FX-8320:

$240-260 implementation cost: CPU($150-160) + MOBO($90-100 970) + stock HSF
3.5ghz base clock speed. 4.0ghz turbo, OC to 4.2GHZ on stock cooler

8 cores x 4 integer execution pipes per core + 4 FPU pipes per module = 48 execution pipes in total which combined to make available up to:
16 arithmetic logic units
8 integer/vector arithmetic units
8 floating point vector units

8 threaded fetch up to 128 Byte per cycle combined
4 x Branch prediction units (1 per module) with 19-22 cycle misprediction penalty
4 decoders issue up to 16 instruction per cycle maximum theoretical across 4 modules.

4 FPU units with 16 instruction pipes total:
2-17 cycle latency depending on function.
174 cycle denormal penalty.
combined maximum 8x128bit operation or 4x256bit operation per cycle.

Maximum Cache bandwidth: ~0.4TB/s.
L1 cache size: 1MB
L2 cache size: 8MB
L3 cache size: 8MB

L1 cache Latency: 3.5
L2 cache Latency: 20
L3 cache Latency: 87

Workload: Maximum IPS@4.2GHZ:
1 thread: 2.2 IPC = 9.25 GIPS
2 thread: 4.4 IPC = 18.5 GIPS
3 thread: 6.6 IPC = 27.7 GIPS
4 thread: 8.8 IPC = 37.0 GIPS
5 thread: 10.6 IPC = 44.5 GIPS
6 thread: 12.4 IPC = 52.1 GIPS
7 thread: 14.2 IPC = 59.6 GIPS
8 thread: 16.0 IPC = 67.2 GIPS

i5-4570:

$250-270 implementation cost: CPU ($180-190) + MOBO($70-80 B85) + stock HSF
3.2ghz base clock speed. 3.6ghz turbo, No OC.

4 cores x 8 execution ports per core = 32 mixed function execution ports make available various combinations of up to:
16 arithmetic logic units
12 integer/vector arithmetic units
8 floating point vector units

4 threaded fetch rates up to 64 byte per cycle combined
4 x Branch prediction units with 15-20 cycle misprediction penalty
4 decoders issue up to 16 instruction per cycle maximum theoretical across all 4 cores.

12 ports with FPU resources:
1-5 cycle latency depending on function.
125 cycle denormal penalty.
combined maximum 12x256bit operation per cycle.

Maximum cache bandwidth ~0.8TB/s
L1 cache size: 256KB
L2 cache size: 1MB
L3 cache size: 6MB
L1 cache Latency: 4
L2 cache Latency: 11
L3 cache Latency: 33


Workload: Maximum IPS@3.2-3.6GHZ:
1 thread: 4 IPC = 14.4 GIPS
2 thread: 8 IPC = 28.8 GIPS
3 thread: 12 IPC = 40.8 GIPS
4 thread: 16 IPC = 51.2 GIPS
5 thread: 16 IPC = 51.2 GIPS

6 thread: 16 IPC = 51.2 GIPS
7 thread: 16 IPC = 51.2 GIPS
8 thread: 16 IPC = 51.2 GIPS




FX-6300:

$240-280 implementation cost: CPU($110-120) + MOBO($90-100 970) + HSF($40-60)
3.5ghz base clock speed. 4.1ghz turbo, OC to ~5GHZ on ~$50 HSF

6 cores x 4 integer execution pipes per core + 4 FPU pipes per module = 36 execution pipes in total which combined to make available up to:
12 arithmetic logic units
6 integer/vector arithmetic units
6 floating point vector units

6 threaded fetch up to 96 Byte per cycle combined
3 x Branch prediction units (1 per module) with 19-22 cycle misprediction penalty
3 decoders issue up to 12 instruction per cycle maximum theoretical across 3 modules.

3 FPU units with 12 instruction pipes total:
2-17 cycle latency depending on function.
174 cycle denormal penalty.
combined maximum 6x128bit operation or 3x256bit operation per cycle.

Maximum Cache bandwidth: ~0.3TB/s.
L1 cache size: 1MB
L2 cache size: 6MB
L3 cache size: 8MB
L1 cache Latency: 3.5
L2 cache Latency: 20
L3 cache Latency: 87

Workload: Maximum IPS@4.8GHZ:
1 thread: 2.2 IPC = 11 GIPS
2 thread: 4.4 IPC = 22 GIPS
3 thread: 6.6 IPC = 33 GIPS
4 thread: 8.6 IPC = 43 GIPS
5 thread: 10.2 IPC = 51 GIPS
6 thread: 12.0 IPC = 60 GIPS
7 thread: 12.0 IPC = 60 GIPS

8 thread: 12.0 IPC = 60 GIPS



The i5-4570 offers better performance in real-time workloads than either of the FX chips due to the strong IPS in lightly threaded conditions. Even at 5ghz, An FX core can not overcome the raw execution resources of a haswell core at stock clocks.

Perhaps not important for BF4 @ 60FPS, but 99% of existing games are going to respond to the i5 better than either of the PD chips. The FX-6300@5ghz will perform better than the FX-8320@4.2ghz in any real-time workload.

References: http://www.agner.org/optimize/microarchitecture.pdf
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