Originally Posted by PureBlackFire
the thing is we already got a generation of new cards and new prices with zero increase to performance. I'm saying right now that whatever card replaces the 7870/270X better perform on par with a gtx780 or it's yet another kick in the nuts for consumers. if it's only on par with anything Tahiti, it had better cost way under $200. and how about some improvement to power consumption too. obviously it's getting harder to increase performance and the process are getting expensive, but still, this is not too much to ask. it only sounds remarkable because AMD added an extra tier instead of replacing Tahiti with Hawaii. the 270/270X should have had Tahiti power, so if anything they should skip the "better late than never" part and give a different chip with more performance for the money. otherwise this is going to be part of a 3 year set back in this segment. this performance segment is starting to look like the entry level one where all those x450 cards have performed the same year after year for like 6 years until recently. basically, give me big gains for the same price every 12-18 months or just keep rebranding and I'll buy something else. anyway, these specs are 100% fake so who knows what the 370X will look like. I just don't think it'll be anything positive if it looks like Tahiti, especially < Tahiti XT.
Having a third tier card perform the same as a 780 from only one generation ago? That's not a kick in the pants that's a pipe dream. Getting "big gains for the same price" is also a fantasy at this point for both AMD and Nvidia with silicone. We are down to 20nm and as nodes get smaller it gets harder to shrink them and you get less performance with each shrink the closer you get to 0nm and the point where silicone falls apart. Look at Intel, they are down to what, 10 nm? Now look at Sandy>Ivy>Haswell performance. 10% ipc improvements each generation? Thats not just Intel getting complacent because of lack of competition from AMD itz getting very hard to squeeze more perfommance from silicone. Very soon they are going to have to find a new material to make computer chips with.