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What did "competition" give us?

A $549 290X?

A $699 780Ti?

A $2999 Titan Z?

A $1499 295X2?

What's next a $1499 790?

There is no competition. It's a duopoly and we're paying the price.

Price fixing non-competitive market ftw!

The 790 will probably be $2000 with 6GB of ram... Why?

Because they keep selling.
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yep.
the thing is we already got a generation of new cards and new prices with zero increase to performance. I'm saying right now that whatever card replaces the 7870/270X better perform on par with a gtx780 or it's yet another kick in the nuts for consumers. if it's only on par with anything Tahiti, it had better cost way under $200. and how about some improvement to power consumption too. obviously it's getting harder to increase performance and the process are getting expensive, but still, this is not too much to ask. it only sounds remarkable because AMD added an extra tier instead of replacing Tahiti with Hawaii. the 270/270X should have had Tahiti power, so if anything they should skip the "better late than never" part and give a different chip with more performance for the money. otherwise this is going to be part of a 3 year set back in this segment. this performance segment is starting to look like the entry level one where all those x450 cards have performed the same year after year for like 6 years until recently. basically, give me big gains for the same price every 12-18 months or just keep rebranding and I'll buy something else. anyway, these specs are 100% fake so who knows what the 370X will look like. I just don't think it'll be anything positive if it looks like Tahiti, especially < Tahiti XT.

Having a third tier card perform the same as a 780 from only one generation ago? That's not a kick in the pants that's a pipe dream. Getting "big gains for the same price" is also a fantasy at this point for both AMD and Nvidia with silicone. We are down to 20nm and as nodes get smaller it gets harder to shrink them and you get less performance with each shrink the closer you get to 0nm and the point where silicone falls apart. Look at Intel, they are down to what, 10 nm? Now look at Sandy>Ivy>Haswell performance. 10% ipc improvements each generation? Thats not just Intel getting complacent because of lack of competition from AMD itz getting very hard to squeeze more perfommance from silicone. Very soon they are going to have to find a new material to make computer chips with.
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post #93 of 195
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post

What did "competition" give us?

A $549 290X?

A $699 780Ti?

A $2999 Titan Z?

A $1499 295X2?

What's next a $1499 790?

There is no competition. It's a duopoly and we're paying the price.

Price fixing non-competitive market ftw!

I love my 270x. It was a nice upgrade over my 470. I just feel like AMD could of done much better. I wish AMD had released something like this:

msrp $180 - 260x = 280
msrp $250 - 270x = 280x
msrp $350 - 280x = 290
msrp $450 - 290x = 290x

That would of kicked nvidia in the nuts in performance / price ratio and instead of being 8 versions of the cards only 4.
Edited by orlfman - 4/10/14 at 9:24am
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post #94 of 195
The 270x is just a renamed 7870 which is great for it's pre mining price. I have two in my house, love them for 1080p gaming.
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Looks like a few more years with my 7970s...
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post #96 of 195
these are not coming out in summer, or anytime in 2014.

2015 is when we will see new gpus from AMD. I think people forget that the 290x just came out. It was released October of 2013.

these "leaked specs" are wrong also.
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post #97 of 195
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these are not coming out in summer, or anytime in 2014.

2015 is when we will see new gpus from AMD. I think people forget that the 290x just came out. It was released October of 2013.

these "leaked specs" are wrong also.
bald statement to make since they may very well get out this year.

Those specs are just rumours nothing serious there I agree.
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Having a third tier card perform the same as a 780 from only one generation ago? That's not a kick in the pants that's a pipe dream. Getting "big gains for the same price" is also a fantasy at this point for both AMD and Nvidia with silicone. We are down to 20nm and as nodes get smaller it gets harder to shrink them and you get less performance with each shrink the closer you get to 0nm and the point where silicone falls apart. Look at Intel, they are down to what, 10 nm? Now look at Sandy>Ivy>Haswell performance. 10% ipc improvements each generation? Thats not just Intel getting complacent because of lack of competition from AMD itz getting very hard to squeeze more perfommance from silicone. Very soon they are going to have to find a new material to make computer chips with.

Let me help you.

Silicon is an element.
Example: Silicon is a semiconductor.

Silicone is a compound.
Example: If you are confusing the two, your mother probably attracted your father with the help of a lot of silicone.
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post #99 of 195
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Let me help you.

Silicon is an element.
Example: Silicon is a semiconductor.

Silicone is a compound.
Example: If you are confusing the two, your mother probably attracted your father with the help of a lot of silicone.

What? Oh damn autocorrect lol. Yes I ment silicon. My point still stands though.
Edited by Deadboy90 - 4/10/14 at 8:40pm
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bald statement to make since they may very well get out this year.

Those specs are just rumours nothing serious there I agree.

I think he may be right. The rumor is that the big Fabs are having serious problems with 20nm.
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