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Oh right, Im sorry it was when you switched over to the new SSD's doh.gif
    
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Oh right, Im sorry it was when you switched over to the new SSD's doh.gif

 

Oh, Do you mean this?

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1467026/swapped-storage-drive-copied-files-over-now-the-start-menu-search-is-broken

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Yeah I think so, Ive spent the 24 hours of the last 48 at school restructuring my resume as well as trying to make way on my Windows 7, Config certification and I'm toast. poke.gif
    
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Yeah I think so, Ive spent the 24 hours of the last 48 at school restructuring my resume as well as trying to make way on my Windows 7, Config certification and I'm toast. poke.gif

 

lol :) It's all good.

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It took me a long time to notice, but window titles are centered! Nice. I like that!

 

I also realized something else: now that there's no more window transparency, I can use Aero Window Title in Firefox and never have to worry about not being able to read the title! I like this very much. Way to go, Microsoft. Not bad, not bad.

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It [fast startup via hibernating the kernel] is definitely not for users like us though. I mean, take me for example: I disconnected all of my drives except for my Mushkin Callisto Deluxe to install Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation. When I got to the desktop, I shut down and reconnected the other drives (Samsung 840 EVOs). When I got back into Windows, the new drives weren't showing up. At that moment, I was like, "Seriously? Sigh". So, then I disabled Hibernation and rebooted, knowing that this was the culprit. It made me wonder how many people shut down to install a new hard drive only to never see it in Disk Management. That makes me wonder how many unnecessary RMAs have resulted from that.

    You don't have to disable hibernation to get around that issue; simply rebooting will do the job.  The kernel is only hibernated when you use the Shutdown option.  Also, if you are shutting down your computer specifically to change the hardware configuration, you can use the "shutdown.exe /s /t 0" command to fully shut down Windows 8x.  I am a little surprised that it didn't detect the drives, because Windows usually works "plug'n'play" with disk drive changes, even with the old IDE drives.  Of course, I would do the hardware change with the computer in standby.  Perhaps opening Device Manager, and clicking "Action\Scan for hardware changes..." would have caused your newly connected drives to be detected.
    One big caveat with the fast startup option: Don't dual-boot if you have it enabled, since it will cause disk corruption when you boot the Windows 8x system back up.  Why Microsoft didn't flush the NTFS buffers and cache completely before hibernating the kernel, I don't know; but it uses cached MFT information and assumes too much about the disk layout (which gets changed when you boot a different system), causing file corruption/crosslinking when new data is written by the un-hibernated system.
 
 
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I'm not sure what you mean. However, I have been noticing something: when copying or moving files and/or folders to a location that already contains files or folders of the same names, the dialog box that is supposed to come up will show up behind the window.

    Yeah, I noticed this bug too.  It was real bad in the first Windows 8 Preview edition, but improved a little by the time Windows 8 was released.  I believe that the bug is caused by the new feature that "combines" multiple file operation dialogs into one dialog.  That was gripe #19 (at the time of this writing) on my post of gripes about Windows 8x.

    Another nasty thing in Windows 8.1 is the lack of a "XP style DPI scaling" option.  If you're using a screen DPI setting higher than 120 DPI, programs that don't specifically state in their manifest that they are high DPI compatible will now be rendered at 96 DPI, and then the DWM will stretch that image out to your desired DPI.  The resulting window image can be very blurry.  You can read more about this, and a work-around here.
 
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    You don't have to disable hibernation to get around that issue; simply rebooting will do the job.  The kernel is only hibernated when you use the Shutdown option.

 

Oh. Still, how many people are going to figure this one out? I mean, if it suddenly works for them after rebooting, are they going to go, "Oh! So all one has to do in Windows 8 is restart Windows after turning the computer back on. That's not so bad."

 

I would agree with that, but it's still kind of annoying for a geek like me who's accustomed to just turning the computer off, connecting the drive(s), turning the computer on, and then going from there without having to restart Windows.

 

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Also, if you are shutting down your computer specifically to change the hardware configuration, you can use the "shutdown.exe /s /t 0" command to fully shut down Windows 8x.

 

Yeah, that's nice to know now, but how many people are going to be in the same situation I was in; not knowing this until a week later? lol :)

 

See what I'm saying? Microsoft made this OS for people who aren't all that tech-savvy. I mean, by default, it's set up so that it shuts down into a hybrid sleep which means that if anyone wants to connect a new or old drive, then they'll turn their computer back on and go, "What the hell?! It's not even in Disk Management!" lol Yes, I know how to fix that problem now, but how many people are (or already have) just came to the conclusion that their drive is dead because of that and never found out otherwise?

 

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I am a little surprised that it didn't detect the drives, because Windows usually works "plug'n'play" with disk drive changes, even with the old IDE drives.  Of course, I would do the hardware change with the computer in standby.  Perhaps opening Device Manager, and clicking "Action\Scan for hardware changes..." would have caused your newly connected drives to be detected.

 

Oh doh. I should have known that being a geek, but this is like any other skill: "if you don't use it, then you lose it". I never remembered at any point that I could have just done that in Device Manager and I have some doubts that others who rarely connect new or old drives are going to know this or be told this either unless they happen to be helped by someone as awesome as you (I apologize for the high praise lol, but I seriously love having you on OCN).

 

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    Yeah, I noticed this bug too.  It was real bad in the first Windows 8 Preview edition, but improved a little by the time Windows 8 was released.  I believe that the bug is caused by the new feature that "combines" multiple file operation dialogs into one dialog.  That was gripe #19 (at the time of this writing) on my post of gripes about Windows 8x.

 

Hmm. I wonder if Update 1 fixed this. Do you have Update 1? I'm avoiding it because I don't want to disrupt my perfect setup here.

 

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    Another nasty thing in Windows 8.1 is the lack of a "XP style DPI scaling" option.  If you're using a screen DPI setting higher than 120 DPI, programs that don't specifically state in their manifest that they are high DPI compatible will now be rendered at 96 DPI, and then the DWM will stretch that image out to your desired DPI.  The resulting window image can be very blurry.  You can read more about this, and a work-around here.

 

LOL ok, so in other words, Microsoft was like, "Screw the desktop users; we're focusing on touch-system users here and then maybe when we're done perfecting that we'll see about tossing together a somewhat-decent desktop environment."

 

Don't get me wrong though: I am loving Windows 8.1 so far now that I have installed and customized StartIsBack+ and Old New Explorer and also installed Gadgets Revived, but still! Some of these little bugs like that dialog box sometimes popping up behind everything are just inexcusable in a final version.

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Glad your enjoying 8.1, took me a while to figure it all out and with Metro... I was completely lost! But now I have the hang of it its brilliant and laid out perfectly for my uses.
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Glad your enjoying 8.1, took me a while to figure it all out and with Metro... I was completely lost! But now I have the hang of it its brilliant and laid out perfectly for my uses.

 

hehe I had such a hard time with the Modern UI that I had to abandon it altogether and replicate Windows 7 as best as I can, and I'd say that I succeeded! There have already been times where I had to check to see if I was in Windows 8.1 by just glancing at maybe the look and color of the Taskbar or the look and color of windows, or the Start Menu button (I'm using the Windows 8.1 logo for the Start Menu button).

 

But of course, there are some differences in Windows 8.1 that I like over Windows 7. I'm a bit too sleepy at the moment to really recall them with clarity, so maybe I can try tomorrow if I remember to.

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lol I am done evaluating Windows 8.1. I thought I had that File Explorer slow loading problem licked, but it came back hardcore today. So, I'm back to Windows 7 where everything works perfectly. It feels good.

 

So, that's it: I'm done with Windows 8.1 and I'm not going back. After I post this, I'm going to shut down and disconnect the drive that it's installed on. Or, I might just Secure Erase it. I don't know yet. Either way, yeah: I'm done with Windows 8.1. Windows 7 is what makes me happy.

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