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I've been trying to avoid starting a "what should a buy?" thread and do the research on my own but I've hit a point wear I just can't get enough information to make enough decision. So I'm looking to upgrade from my Silverstone ST1000-NV, to another fully modular power supply so I can individually sleeve each wire, so capacitors soldered on the wires would be a deal breaker for me. The powersupply would be for the rig, Vera, in my signature and I believe 1KW is way overkill so I would to focus on more efficient, cleaner, stable and reliable power for my upgrade. Ideally I would like the power supply to be 180mm, or 7in in length, because that perfectly matches the power supply up with the fan filter in my FT02. I would like to leave room for the psu to potentially run 2 GTX780's or 780 TI's. I do not plan on ever running any more than 2 gpu's but I actually would like to sell my 670's and buy a single 780, I found that SLI has introduced awful stuttering in all my games. (I'm wondering if G-Sync will solve this problem but I doubt it since it's more of a gpu problem). Finally I would like to make sure that the unit has enough umph to power any future upgrades I will make in the next 5 years.

So here are the three power supplies that I can't decide between.

1st: Seasonic SS-760XP2 = $100 (through a 48 hour only coupon code from newegg, and $20 mir)
Pros: Low cost, clean cables, fully modular, I know that there are not any capacitors attached to the wires, very affordable since it's on sale right now, Seasonic has an exceptional reputation
Cons: I'm worried that it might not be enough power to run my possible future upgrades, this might seem silly but at 6.3in the length of the unit is a little shorter than I would like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151120

2nd: Seasonic SS-860XP2 = $180 (from newegg as well)
Pros: Same Pros as the 760 expect for price, and I know this enough should provide plenty of power any potential upgrades I might through at it (Dual SLI or Crossfire, no Tri)
Cons: Price, and again the unit is a little short than I'd like.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111

3rd: EVGA Supernova 850G2 = $140 (from newegg and $10mir)
Pros: Enough power, it's the right length, fully modular, descent price, seams to be an exceptional unit for the price.
Cons: The biggest con is that I do not know that this unit has 100% capacitor free wires. (I really don't want to have to deal with having to figure out a way to hide them, and it ruins the clean look of the cable work I'm planning on doing). Super Flower (the eom) does not seem to be as well established as Seasonic nor does it seem like that have quite as consistent of a reputation. The hold up time failed ATX spec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438018

Here are my three main issues.
1. Will the SS-760XP2 be enough power for two overclocked 780 Ti's, as this will be the most amount of stuff I will ever load my power supply with.
2. Does the Evga 850g2 have capacitors soldered on the wires. I've noticed a bulge under the heat shrink (apart from the zip tie) on some images on the cables for this unit, and that has left me very wary of this unit.
3. the SS-860XP2 is just expansive it's not awful as far as price but it is definitely on the high end of cost for an 800+ unit.

I am interested to hear recommendations that you might have but please remember that the unit must be fully modular, so I can make custom cables.
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Will you be increasing the voltage of the 780 Ti's very much?

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I doubt it. I would probably do at most a 10 to 20% overclock, to the cards. I typically don't like spending tons of time OCing I just like to push my hardware slightly above and not fiddle with it once it's stable. I would like to push my 4770K to 4.4 or 4.6 sometime down the road if it is possible with some light water cooling, a thin 360 rad.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Fate View Post

I doubt it. I would probably do at most a 10 to 20% overclock, to the cards. I typically don't like spending tons of time OCing I just like to push my hardware slightly above and not fiddle with it once it's stable. I would like to push my 4770K to 4.4 or 4.6 sometime down the road if it is possible with some light water cooling, a thin 360 rad.

 

Then your power consumption while gaming will only max out to be around 675W.

 

I don't know anything about sleeving though or the details of the way each PSU is made in regards to how friendly it may or may not be for sleeving, but just know that you should probably get a good 850W PSU. That will give you even more room for overclocking if you get tempted. :) That way, you'll have that peace of mind that you can if you want to. Not only that, but the PSU will run cooler and thus be quieter.

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post #5 of 28
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So then it's between the EVGA 850G2 and the Seasonic
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Then your power consumption while gaming will only max out to be around 675W.

I don't know anything about sleeving though or the details of the way each PSU is made in regards to how friendly it may or may not be for sleeving, but just know that you should probably get a good 850W PSU. That will give you even more room for overclocking if you get tempted. smile.gif That way, you'll have that peace of mind that you can if you want to. Not only that, but the PSU will run cooler and thus be quieter.


Yeah that's what I was thinking, I just got very temped by the 760 since it the price was so low, but the wattage seemed like it might be limiting. I doubt I will go back to running two cards because of the issues I've had with stuttering for my two cards but I still want to leave that option open.

So then it's between the evga 850G2 and the seasonic 860XP2. I'm thinking that if the evga doesn't have any caps. making it easy to sleeve then I'll go for that, but if it does then I think I'll probably go for the Seasonic. I was originally thinking an AX860i $200 but I've read too many RMA posts for that unit so I've ruled that one out.
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EVGA will be out with pre sleeved cables you can buy soon, or do you want your own custom cables?
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Quote:
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EVGA will be out with pre sleeved cables you can buy soon, or do you want your own custom cables?

I would like to do my own cables. I'm planning on ordering about 150 feet of Lutro0's Teleios, and making a design like the N7 stripe with the cables. I already have all the tools I need to sleeve a psu and this would be my second power supply, so I'm comfortable with the process.
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I would like to do my own cables. I'm planning on ordering about 150 feet of Lutro0's Teleios, and making a design like the N7 stripe with the cables. I already have all the tools I need to sleeve a psu and this would be my second power supply, so I'm comfortable with the process.

Fair enough
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So that just leaves with the question are the caps on evga's wires? I called evga up the other day, and they told me no, or at least that they doubted it.
After some digging I found the photo that I mentioned with the bulge. This is from the 750G2, but you can clearly see what looks like a capacitor under the heatshrink. Which makes me kinda bummed because I think I would buy the evga unit if it weren't for that.

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Why not grab a Cooler Master V then?
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