Overclock.net › Forums › General Hardware › General Processor Discussions › anyone have any reasonable suggestions
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

anyone have any reasonable suggestions

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
so i have had my current build about 3 years (not including cooling and storage upgrades) so im going to start looking at upgrading the full system, i am just wondering if anyone has had any of the parts i am thinking of and would say to stay away or whether to just pay a bit extra to get better results.


NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case (not sure whether white or black) depends on how they look in store)
Intel Core i7-4770 @3.4ghz
ASUS Z87 A Intel Z87 ATX motherboard
Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Vapor-X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card
Corsair Vengeance (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz (not sure color wise, once again depends on store)
2 x 1tb seagate barracuda
cooler master hyper tx3

i know a psu is missing, could anyone suggest a sufficient psu i will probably be looking to get to around 4-4.2ghz if that makes much of a difference
post #2 of 7
I'm a big fan of NZXT's products, especially cases and PSUs. (Their primary business) So I agree there.

Though I'm curious why the 2x1 TB HDD. Could probably get a smaller SSD for an OS drive, and programs can fit on the 1TB. Do you have a large amount of media to store?
Green Dragon
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K ASrock Extreme4 X79 LGA 2011 EVGA GTX 780 6GB EVGA GTX 780 6GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
12GB (3x4) Samsung 2133 Mhz Sandisk SSD 500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 Corsair H100 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Professional 64-bit Acer G7 G237HLbi Acer G7 G237HLbi Acer G7 G237HLbi 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Chroma Corsair HX 750 Lancool K62 Dragonlord Razer taipan 
AudioAudio
Creative Soundblaster Z Razer Krakeen 7.1 Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Green Dragon
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K ASrock Extreme4 X79 LGA 2011 EVGA GTX 780 6GB EVGA GTX 780 6GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
12GB (3x4) Samsung 2133 Mhz Sandisk SSD 500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 Corsair H100 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Professional 64-bit Acer G7 G237HLbi Acer G7 G237HLbi Acer G7 G237HLbi 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Chroma Corsair HX 750 Lancool K62 Dragonlord Razer taipan 
AudioAudio
Creative Soundblaster Z Razer Krakeen 7.1 Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
my apologies with the delay in my reply work and family weddings are time killers, as to the question about media i have a fair amount of general media games movies etc, however i also do a bit of 3d cad work in my spare time, my intention was to have 1 drive for windows and work, 1 for media, other than this there is no readon other than atm the store iwhere i ussually buy most of my products from it doesnt work out much more for a 1tb over say a 500gb,
post #4 of 7
The i7-4770 3.4ghz is not overclock-able. If you want to overclock you must select the i7-4770K 3.5ghz CPU instead.

The 1150 socket platform has a dual channel memory controller. Using 4x4GB sticks will only use more slots, it will not add more performance than a 2x8GB kit. 2x8GB is generally preferable.

Vengeance memory is very tall and may interfere with some CPU HSFs, be careful there. I recomend sticking with lower profile kits to keep the doors open to more cooling options if you ever wanted to overclock more aggressively.

I recommend a 1600-1866 speed memory kit with either low voltage or tight timings or both (no higher than 1.5V, 1600-8 or 1866-9 or better). This will give you a fail-safe but performance tuned memory speeds/settings that you can fall back on quickly and easily by simply selecting the XMP profile. You can always overclock these kits higher with more voltage if you choose to, but having a default XMP profile that lands within the supported speeds and voltage of the intel memory controller is a good idea. I recommend the Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2x8GB 1600-8-8-8@1.35V kit. Overclock-able to 2133-2400+ speeds, and low profile will fit under more HSFs, furthermore, the color will match the Asus Z87-A fairly well. (yellow theme).

An SSD system/app drive will improve boot and program loading speed by 3-4X. Highly recommended. Use a ~250GB SSD (~$120) for windows and all applications, then use a 1-2TB mechanical drive (~$60-90) for media and projects and storage.

The CNPS5X is a slightly better performer than the TX3 in that ~90mm format and usually costs about the same or less, though the TX3 has the advantage of a replaceable fan. That said, If you pick out a standard height memory kit then you may as well pick out a larger format (120mm) CPU cooler like the 212 EVO (4x6mm pipe) or SilverStone AR01 (3x8mm pipe).

The Z87-A is a fantastic motherboard, If you can swing a few bucks more, the ASRock Extreme6 (often only about $10-20 more) offers a lot more for the money IMO. Nicer on-board sound, dual NIC (even if you don't use this it can be nice for redundancy), auxiliary SATA controller (combined 10 SATA ports, vs 6 for the Z87-A), comes with 6 SATA cables instead of 2, comes with additional USB 3.0 port panel, beefier VRMs (12 phase vs 8 phase) with heatpipe cooling, debug LED, etc.

PSU sizing and selection will depend on long term goals for overclocking and GPU configurations. The i7-4770K@4.3ghz with an R9 280X can technically be run on as little as a good quality 450W PSU. However, if the 280X is overclocked, 550W would be a better size to look at. If you'd like headroom to add another 280X, overclock both GPUs, and maybe push the CPU higher as well (4.5ghz+), then ~850W would be a good size to look at. The EVGA SuperNova G2 850W, Corsair HX850, CoolerMaster V850 are nice quality units to consider. Sometimes nice quality 1KW units go on sale for ~800W unit prices (like the EVGA G2 1000W). Too big is never really a problem unless you're concerned about the minor reductions in efficiency when the computer is idle. If it doesn't bother you to be at 85% efficiency instead of 87% efficiency at idle (usually only about a 1-2W difference in idle power consumption), then a 1KW PSU of good quality, for the right price, is a good way to ensure you have enough power for whatever you want to do with the machine. A great PSU can last a decade or more.
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thank you mdocod for the advice, i am only just getting into building computers, my current pc was done by me giving a list to a shop with a budget, with a little extra room for improvement so i apologies now for any seemingly stupid questions, i have looked on another store not far from me which do both normal vengeance ram and low profile looking at the specs i cannot really see a difference in them other than there potential heat displacement, am i right in thinking this is the case? also in terms of heat sink i was just going to take the tx3 of my current pc, this is being given to a family so i was going to return it to a basic stock 2.6 or 2.7ghz with the original heat sink, leaving me the tx3 spare, which currently has 2 fans not the standard 1
post #6 of 7
With DDR3, large heat-sinks are largely for looks. Most DDR3 doesn't even need heat-spreaders or sinks, it's just there for marketing..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

The low profile bare kits above were some of the best performing, highest clocking DDR3 kits sold in their time (can't get em any more, sad).

Nothing wrong with re-using the TX3 wink.gif
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 7
That cooler should still work. LGA 1150, 1155, and 1156 all use the same mounting brackets, so if one is listed as compatible, then they all are. If you have some spare cash then it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at a better cooler, but I doubt you'll see significant improvements unless you get a high-end air cooler or even a closed-loop liquid cooler, both of which will be $80 minimum.

I just want to point out a couple things. One, if you aren't going to have any use for a 1000W PSU and you get one, then you're wasting money. Obviously you should get one if it's a better deal than a smaller equivalent, but spending extra and having no plans to upgrade past just one or even two 280Xs is a waste. I think ~800W should be fine for a pair and 850W gives you some decent overhead.

EDIT: And yeah, RAM heatsinks are a waste. The heatsinks on mine are basically sheets of aluminium glued to the memory, and you really don't need anything more than that until you start overclocking past 2400MHz (or higher maybe?). Corsair Dominator looks fancy but is entirely unnecessary.
Triumvirate
(20 items)
 
Osmium
(8 items)
 
For Sale: [FS] Z97 system: Xeon and RAM
$160 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-5775C ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Sapphire RX 480 (reference) MSI Low-Profile 750Ti 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum - 2x8GB Crucial M500 - 960GB Samsung 840 - 250GB WD Scorpio Blue - 1TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
ADATA SP900 - 64GB Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B PNY Quadro 600 blower Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
ASUS VE247H - 1080p Gateway FPD1960 - 1280x1024 Samsung S20D300 - 900p, portrait Rosewill RK9000I - Cherry MX Blue 
PowerCaseMouseOther
Rosewill HIVE 650W Riotoro CR1080 SteelSeries Rival 100 CyberPower 1500PFCLCD 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A10-7870K ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ G.Skill Ripjaws X - 2x4GB @ 2400MT/s Samsung 840 120GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Evercool EC-HPS-810CP Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PicoPSU-120-WI-25 Mini-Box M350 
  hide details  
Reply
Triumvirate
(20 items)
 
Osmium
(8 items)
 
For Sale: [FS] Z97 system: Xeon and RAM
$160 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-5775C ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Sapphire RX 480 (reference) MSI Low-Profile 750Ti 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum - 2x8GB Crucial M500 - 960GB Samsung 840 - 250GB WD Scorpio Blue - 1TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
ADATA SP900 - 64GB Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B PNY Quadro 600 blower Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
ASUS VE247H - 1080p Gateway FPD1960 - 1280x1024 Samsung S20D300 - 900p, portrait Rosewill RK9000I - Cherry MX Blue 
PowerCaseMouseOther
Rosewill HIVE 650W Riotoro CR1080 SteelSeries Rival 100 CyberPower 1500PFCLCD 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A10-7870K ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ G.Skill Ripjaws X - 2x4GB @ 2400MT/s Samsung 840 120GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Evercool EC-HPS-810CP Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PicoPSU-120-WI-25 Mini-Box M350 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Processor Discussions
Overclock.net › Forums › General Hardware › General Processor Discussions › anyone have any reasonable suggestions