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I honestly think most of the "haswell is bad at OCing" reports come from people getting used to SB and IB and then having to adjust something other than vcore and multi with haswell.

Sure there's a bit more variation than usual but I never really saw a chip that was stuck at 4.2 after you properly OC'd it.
 
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My heart says yes, my head says no. I want 2x samsung xp941 in raid 0 drool.gif

RAID 0 is useless for SSDs though, and just increases risk of data loss.

Perhaps but it would increase the amount of awesome. But in all seriousness, if you deal in very large files (movies, pictures) it might be helpful for opening in-progress projects. On a side note, This was a similar statement made back in the early days of SSDs and any benefits vs HDDs. rolleyes.gif
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so the rumors about broadwell or haswell refresh being soldered i guess are bogus.
 
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Would be nice if they sold the bracket separately, would very likely get a few. wink.gif
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RAID 0 is useless for SSDs though, and just increases risk of data loss.

No, they are not useless and have systems running RAID-0 SSD setups for years. Yes, the chance of potential DATA loss is higher, but no one should be putting anything of importance on such a RAID configuration anyways.
    
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I honestly think most of the "haswell is bad at OCing" reports come from people getting used to SB and IB and then having to adjust something other than vcore and multi with haswell.

Sure there's a bit more variation than usual but I never really saw a chip that was stuck at 4.2 after you properly OC'd it.

I would fall into that category of enthusiast, my overclocking abilities are limited to vcore and multi, my 5.2Ghz 3770K is most likely capable of higher clocks if I had any real talent. biggrin.gif
    
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I honestly think most of the "haswell is bad at OCing" reports come from people getting used to SB and IB and then having to adjust something other than vcore and multi with haswell.

Sure there's a bit more variation than usual but I never really saw a chip that was stuck at 4.2 after you properly OC'd it.


Pretty much this.


One of my 4770ks just needed vcore and multi to hit 5.0, the other one needed hours of jerking around with it to hit 5.0
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post #57 of 90
I've only had one chip but I've also ran it through XTU (which is basically prime95) at 5.4ghz...

There's definitely big variations but I refuse to believe that there are more than 3 chips out there that can't go over 4.2. Hell mine can do 4.4-4.5 on stock cooling...
 
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post #58 of 90
Overclocking noob question coming in.

How much is that moment when a CPU decides whether or not it wants to boot with a healthy overclock dependent upon the available cooling?

total nooober question I know... please forgive. redface.gif
    
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Depends on the architecture. With SB extra cooling provided very little.

For pretty much everything else however ask yourself:

What would happen if you tried to boot a 4770K @6GHz or a 8350 @7GHz using water cooling?
 
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Instant crash lol. I tried even with chilled water, no go.
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