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The GPU's have a stable overclock. Have been running them at 1150 on the core and 1500 on the memory for months without a problem (290 crossfire, watercooled). Has only happened recently. I played Metro with the overclcok fine for the last few weeks and it only started crashing yesterday. I have a feeling my motherboard is possibly dodgy. New cpu overclocks just like the last one. Tried 4ghz at 1.24v, crashed and was asking for over 1.3v. Only thing I changed was the voltage and multiplier.
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Should I update the bios? It's currently V1.3 and the latest is V1.9.
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worth a shot hahaha
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The GPU's have a stable overclock. Have been running them at 1150 on the core and 1500 on the memory for months without a problem (290 crossfire, watercooled). Has only happened recently. I played Metro with the overclcok fine for the last few weeks and it only started crashing yesterday. I have a feeling my motherboard is possibly dodgy. New cpu overclocks just like the last one. Tried 4ghz at 1.24v, crashed and was asking for over 1.3v. Only thing I changed was the voltage and multiplier.

 

But if it works fine at stock, then that likely means that it wasn't stable before.

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worth a shot hahaha

I've read that updating the BIOS could screw things up, is there a chance it will? I'll be using MSI's live update software.
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But if it works fine at stock, then that likely means that it wasn't stable before.

Never had a problem with the overclock before, games never crashed and didn't get any artifacts. Down clocked them to 1130 and 1450, metro worked but was getting artifacts.
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I've read that updating the BIOS could screw things up, is there a chance it will? I'll be using MSI's live update software.
Never had a problem with the overclock before, games never crashed and didn't get any artifacts. Down clocked them to 1130 and 1450, metro worked but was getting artifacts.

 

Sometimes, instability takes a while to show up. This is why an overclocked component must be stress-tested. Just using it normally isn't enough. You have to remember that when you overclock something, you're making huge changes to it. You're almost creating a new part, in a sense. So, just normal use is nowhere near good enough. It must be put through its paces, brought to its knees. You have to see if it's actually stable with your new settings before it can be used normally.

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^^
Precisely

See that 5.0GHZ@1.43V badge of honor in my sig?

I'm going to have to demote myself to 4.9ghz@1.44V as I ran into stability problems a few days ago doing some testing. Was stable at 5ghz for like 2 months. Proving to be too much to ask from the chip as a long-haul setting. Regressions in stable overclocks are probably common. Dust load, changing seasons (temps). Wouldn't surprise me if minor changes to the power supply stage for CPU's and GPUs take place in the first few months of running from heat cycling, oxidizing, etc.
     
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Sometimes, instability takes a while to show up. This is why an overclocked component must be stress-tested. Just using it normally isn't enough. You have to remember that when you overclock something, you're making huge changes to it. You're almost creating a new part, in a sense. So, just normal use is nowhere near good enough. It must be put through its paces, brought to its knees. You have to see if it's actually stable with your new settings before it can be used normally.

I'd only overclock my gpu's whenever I'm playing games which is only a couple hours a week if that. Well I updated the BIOS last night and they seemed to be running fine at 1130 and 1450 on metro. Will see if it runs at 1150 a d 1500 today. I'm surprised there were no bsod's yesterday too after a 10hr scan..
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^^
Precisely

See that 5.0GHZ@1.43V badge of honor in my sig?

I'm going to have to demote myself to 4.9ghz@1.44V as I ran into stability problems a few days ago doing some testing. Was stable at 5ghz for like 2 months. Proving to be too much to ask from the chip as a long-haul setting. Regressions in stable overclocks are probably common. Dust load, changing seasons (temps). Wouldn't surprise me if minor changes to the power supply stage for CPU's and GPUs take place in the first few months of running from heat cycling, oxidizing, etc.

Whoa, 5ghz at 1.43v is heaps. Every time I'd overclock my CPU it would keep telling me to add more volts to the point of going over 1.3v just for 4ghz which I find very strange.
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Well it looked like having ULPS mode on for the GPU's was causing them to crash so that's sorted now. Playing Metro at 1150 and 1500 and fine now. But still have the problem with overclocking the cpu though. Also booting up is fine now too, just hope I don't get random BSOD's again.

So can anybody explain what's going on with the voltages for my CPU? Only things I change are the multiplyer and core voltage. It'd set the core to 4ghz at 1.25v, reboot and it wants 1.27, reboot and it wants 1.28 and so on. I even went to 1.37v, rebooted and it was asking for 1.38v
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one thing that would help people help you is if you check the link in my signature on how to put your rig specs into your signature.


good luck sorting this out! looks like a very nice machine!
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