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Should i keep my 8350 at 8 cores 4.4ghz or go 4 cores 5ghz?

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Both stay within 55 degrees even in hot weather running prime95 blend or large fft 24hour, so it's absolutely down to whats better for gaming at this point.

At the moment my 4.4 on 8 cores is 1.39v and will get 54 degrees on an exceptionally hot day when p95/boinc-ing

I've just finished testing and I can definitely do 5ghz on 4 cores at 1.5v 24hr prime (max at 48 degrees). I can't eek out another 100mhz without bumping the voltage up .5v and at that point the temps are getting too close for comfort for just 4 cores.

Trying in the middle, I can get 6 cores to 5ghz at 1.58v but I could only do that for 20 mins or so before the temps were unhealthy.

To get all 8 cores to 5ghz stable I'm going to need wc as I'm currently running NH D-14 and its going to be looking at 1.6** v's or there abouts.

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4.4ghz on 8 cores, or 5ghz on 4 cores?
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I save two profiles in my BIOS, and if I'm gonna play a game I know is single threaded, or doesn't scale well to multiple cores, I go one core per module. If it's another game, like BF4, that does scale well, I go with more cores.

It really just depends on the game, there is no right answer to this.

But 4m/4c mode will give you better single threaded performance in some situations. It really just depends. I suggest trying to understand what software you're running and accommodate for that software.
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My guess, some games would benefit from the additional speed on only 4 cores, but it is probably fairly minor performance gains. I would stay with 8c.
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8 @ 4.4

There is no comparison.
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8 @ 4.4 because then you have 4 FPU's active as opposed to 2. I bet 8@4.4 benches higher than 4@5.
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8 @ 4.4 because then you have 4 FPU's active as opposed to 2. I bet 8@4.4 benches higher than 4@5.

4m/4c mode means you have one integer unit and one FPU per core. 4m/4c just completely disables all the shared core stuff at the cost of the benefits of the shared core stuff.

I don't know what OP is trying to do though, you can either disable half the modules or you can disable part of each module.

I do think 4m/4c mode is much better for things like Starcraft 2 and League of Legends, probably Skyrim too. Basically anything FX usually sucks at can be made a lot better with 4m/4c mode and Bulldozer Conditioner.

But you lose FX's strongest point, which is cheap, really good multi-thread performance. So that's why I bounce between the two.
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4m/4c mode means you have one integer unit and one FPU per core. 4m/4c just completely disables all the shared core stuff at the cost of the benefits of the shared core stuff.

I don't know what OP is trying to do though, you can either disable half the modules or you can disable part of each module.

I do think 4m/4c mode is much better for things like Starcraft 2 and League of Legends, probably Skyrim too. Basically anything FX usually sucks at can be made a lot better with 4m/4c mode and Bulldozer Conditioner.

But you lose FX's strongest point, which is cheap, really good multi-thread performance. So that's why I bounce between the two.

You don't shut off "cores" with FX, you disable modules. Which contain 2 integer processing units, 1 floating point unit and shared cache.
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4m/4c mode means you have one integer unit and one FPU per core. 4m/4c just completely disables all the shared core stuff at the cost of the benefits of the shared core stuff.

I don't know what OP is trying to do though, you can either disable half the modules or you can disable part of each module.

I do think 4m/4c mode is much better for things like Starcraft 2 and League of Legends, probably Skyrim too. Basically anything FX usually sucks at can be made a lot better with 4m/4c mode and Bulldozer Conditioner.

But you lose FX's strongest point, which is cheap, really good multi-thread performance. So that's why I bounce between the two.

You don't shut off "cores" with FX, you disable modules. Which contain 2 integer processing units, 1 floating point unit and shared cache.

My UD5 has the option to do both. Either disable individual modules entirely (except for module 0) or to enable one module per compute unit. I don't know if all boards do, but if you can find the benchmark results on XS, 4m/4c mode can offer some very good performance increases clock for clock.

It does a lot of good things like gives each core it's own decoder, etc.
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My UD5 has the option to do both. Either disable individual modules entirely (except for module 0) or to enable one module per compute unit. I don't know if all boards do, but if you can find the benchmark results on XS, 4m/4c mode can offer some very good performance increases clock for clock.

It does a lot of good things like gives each core it's own decoder, etc.

Seriously, is this like a fairly recent thing ?
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My UD5 has the option to do both. Either disable individual modules entirely (except for module 0) or to enable one module per compute unit. I don't know if all boards do, but if you can find the benchmark results on XS, 4m/4c mode can offer some very good performance increases clock for clock.

It does a lot of good things like gives each core it's own decoder, etc.

Seriously, is this like a fairly recent thing ?

No, but to be honest, the amount of programs and games that don't scale well is a lot lower, so I think most people don't bother.

Also, I think that, while FX trails Intel single thread performance, FX single thread isn't bad enough to the point where people are actively trying to do things to make it better. Meaning that it's more than good enough for most users. Either that or they just give up and go Intel.

Either way, if you want to spend time tweaking things and rebooting depending on what games and programs you feel like running, I personally think it's worth it. Plus it gives the chip another aspect to play with. Basically, OC it for multi-thread and OC it for single thread. It's like having two CPUs to overclock but spending less a lot less than what you would for a single Intel in this performance range.
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