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Hi,

I'm looking to do a small upgrade to my computer to increase gaming quality a little bit and video editing/general speed. This will eventually be a dedicated rendering tower when I build a new rig next year.

This is my rig right now:

W7
GIGABYTE P35C-DS3R
INTEL CORE2 QUAD CPU Q6700 2.66GHZ
4GB DDR2 400MHZ
8800 GT 512MB
OCZ Stealth 500SXS PSU
All in one water cooling kit
2TB Seagate 5400RPM HDD

My PSU is dying and it's at it's limit (where I cant even add 2 more RAM Sticks else it wont boot).

I was thinking of getting these with my friend's NCIX discounts:

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-8...w-55-87760.htm = 69.96 CAD
http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-550w-...59615-1018.htm = 105.69 CAD

And 4x2GB cheap from classifieds.

My questions are:

1) How are the parts I want to buy from NCIX and is it worth it?
2) Will that PSU support some OCing on the CPU/GFX along with the SSD+RAM?
3) Will the extra RAM help at all or will something already bottle neck it?

I just want this tower to live a little longer before I put it on the backburner. Plus I heard a new gen of CPUS are coming out and I'm waiting for that to happen and my friend will hook me up with his Intel Retail hookup.

Thanks,

Wilson
post #2 of 7
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Originally Posted by Transcend View Post

Hi,

I'm looking to do a small upgrade to my computer to increase gaming quality a little bit and video editing/general speed. This will eventually be a dedicated rendering tower when I build a new rig next year.

This is my rig right now:

W7
GIGABYTE P35C-DS3R
INTEL CORE2 QUAD CPU Q6700 2.66GHZ
4GB DDR2 400MHZ
8800 GT 512MB
OCZ Stealth 500SXS PSU
All in one water cooling kit
2TB Seagate 5400RPM HDD

My PSU is dying and it's at it's limit (where I cant even add 2 more RAM Sticks else it wont boot).

I was thinking of getting these with my friend's NCIX discounts:

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-8...w-55-87760.htm = 69.96 CAD
http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-550w-...59615-1018.htm = 105.69 CAD

And 4x2GB cheap from classifieds.

My questions are:

1) How are the parts I want to buy from NCIX and is it worth it?
2) Will that PSU support some OCing on the CPU/GFX along with the SSD+RAM?
3) Will the extra RAM help at all or will something already bottle neck it?

I just want this tower to live a little longer before I put it on the backburner. Plus I heard a new gen of CPUS are coming out and I'm waiting for that to happen and my friend will hook me up with his Intel Retail hookup.

Thanks,

Wilson

 

Please fix your links. Until then, I have no idea. From the text of the links, I can see Samsung-8 and I can see XFX 550W. That's it. Click your links and look at the address bar to see the problem, or just hover your mouse over them and look at the bottom of your browser.

 

When you copy a post that has truncated links, you have to copy the "link location" or the "shortcut" (right-click the link). So, refer to your original post wherever this one came from and get those links.

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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

Please fix your links. Until then, I have no idea. From the text of the links, I can see Samsung-8 and I can see XFX 550W. That's it. Click your links and look at the address bar to see the problem, or just hover your mouse over them and look at the bottom of your browser.

When you copy a post that has truncated links, you have to copy the "link location" or the "shortcut" (right-click the link). So, refer to your original post wherever this one came from and get those links.

Sorry, my fault. Here are the models to avoid any confusion with the prices respectively from OP.

http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-550w-pro550w-core-edition-b9-59615-1018.htm
XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-840-evo-series-mz-7te120bw-55-87760.htm
Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB 2.5in SATA III Internal SSD Single Unit Version


Thanks,

Wilson
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That PSU is definitely a lot better than what you have now. Go for it.

 

Putting Windows on that 120 GB 840 EVO will knock your socks off!

 

I don't know if I would add cheap memory to whatever you have installed now. Don't mix memory like that. If you find a decent 2 x 4 GB kit, then go for it. A 4 x 2 GB kit would be ok too, but then you'd have 4 sticks instead of 2 - filling up all 4 slots. If you stay with what you have though, then that should be enough unless you find that you're constantly using most of it.

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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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You picked the perfect parts, order them and be happy biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

That PSU is definitely a lot better than what you have now. Go for it.

Putting Windows on that 120 GB 840 EVO will knock your socks off!

I don't know if I would add cheap memory to whatever you have installed now. Don't mix memory like that. If you find a decent 2 x 4 GB kit, then go for it. A 4 x 2 GB kit would be ok too, but then you'd have 4 sticks instead of 2 - filling up all 4 slots. If you stay with what you have though, then that should be enough unless you find that you're constantly using most of it.

I can't wait then haha. Also you have a good point, I'll buy the parts stuff it in and monitor my usage via the widget and see if I need more.

I didn't know mixing sticks was an issue, thanks for the tip. So you would generally want to find pairs of the same? Would buying 2 different kits of 2x2 make a difference compared to buying a 4x2 kit? Like a pair of ADATA and a pair of KINGSTON vs just a kit of 4 KINGSTON/ADATA for example. It's hard to find 4x kits on classifieds nowadays, at least for DDR2.

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Welcome to OCN!
You picked the perfect parts, order them and be happy biggrin.gif

Glad to know! I can OC a little without worrying then.

Thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by Transcend View Post


I can't wait then haha. Also you have a good point, I'll buy the parts stuff it in and monitor my usage via the widget and see if I need more.

I didn't know mixing sticks was an issue, thanks for the tip. So you would generally want to find pairs of the same? Would buying 2 different kits of 2x2 make a difference compared to buying a 4x2 kit? Like a pair of ADATA and a pair of KINGSTON vs just a kit of 4 KINGSTON/ADATA for example. It's hard to find 4x kits on classifieds nowadays, at least for DDR2.
Glad to know! I can OC a little without worrying then.

Thanks for the help.

 

All of the memory modules are best to have all the exact same specs, right down to the finest details such as the timings and the voltage. Even if everything is the same but the voltage, the kit that requires the higher voltage will either not be stable due to being forced to use the lower voltage of the other memory, or the lower voltage memory will run too hot and possibly fry due to having to use the higher voltage.

 

If everything is the same except for the clock speed, then the slower memory will "win" and it will downclock the faster.

 

Really though, identical specs are best because it reduces the chances for instability. Ideally, it's best to just find a kit rather than mixing two different kits. Even if the two kits are perfectly identical right down to the UPC code on the box, you'd still have to adjust the settings because mixing two identical kits together means that you are creating a user-made kit (so to speak) and that means you have to do what the manufacturer has to do when creating kits: finding the most optimal specs to make all of the modules work together well.

It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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