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do love "the cram it in a small case" builds biggrin.gif
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New Update





Smaller update this time as I have to get back to studying for my entrance exams next month. I might upload a larger update later today, we'll see.


14. Unboxing: Watercooling Parts Batch 2 (Specialtech.co.uk):

I received my order from Specialtech on the 16th and was very excited as this meant that I would have all the parts I need to get the loop done. But when I started unpacking the package I got a bit disappointed, the 3 meters of Primochill tubing I had bought were nowhere to be found. Thinking back, I did sense something was wrong the moment the courier handed over a way smaller package than I had expected "there's no way all of the items could fit in there" I thought, and apparently I was right. The next day I sent a message asking about it and with Easter and all it took until today before I got a reply. It turns out the tubing had been left out of the order by mistake and will be shipped out to me ASAP.

EK Supremacy CSQ CPU
EK LGA115X True Mount
EK Supremacy CSQ VGA
EK RES X3 110
EK CSQ Universal 45° Fittings
EK CSQ Universal 90° Fittings
Bitspower Rotary TR Fitting TR
Bitspower Rotary TIIR Fitting
22mm Female - Female Adapter
EK Laing D5 PWM
Alphacool Pump Decouplers
140MM Fan Grills
Mayhems Biocide



I do regret going with the D5 + EK combo as I will have a hard time fitting the setup into the case. If I'd plan it now I'd go with something like the Swifttech MCRES and a smaller pump. But it'l be fine this way, I'll make it work somehow. I also feel like an idiot for ordering the EK LGA115X True Mount Kit, little did I know it was only for the Supreme line of waterblocks. I should have done more research. rolleyes.gif



15. Painting The Fans:


The Fans I'll be using in this build are 2 st Arctiv F14 PWMs And 2 st Scytche 1700rpm Slip Streams, atleast that's what model I think they are. As the color scheme of this build is black and grey they'll have to get osme paint on them. So, let's get started.


The fans:




I wasn't going to mess around with covering the frame with paper so I removed the whole spinning part. The Arctics were a bit of a PITA as they didn't have a removable cover to gain access to the retention washer keeping the fan attached to the frame so I had to go at it with a drill.




All dissassembled:






Taped up the insides to protect from paint:




All taped up and clean, ready for painting:




Done:




Just one thin layer of paint so as not to mess up the performance too much. Then I brought them to the sauna for drying. tongue.gif
That by the way, is the box the Specialtech order was delivered in.
Edited by iBerggman - 4/22/14 at 6:18am
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New Update





Yet again a smaller update.
Also, today Specialtech told me they've shipped out the missing tubing so early next week I should receive it and the watercooling can start! thumb.gif



16. Painting the motherboard mounting plate:


The raw texture and finish of the plate wouldn't go well with the rest of the build so it has to be painted. I chose to go with a silky matte finish, the color code is RAL 9005 i believe.

While prepping the plate for paint we took the opportunity to enlarge the slot into which the "teeth" of the expansion cards go:



Like so:




The plate had gotten to rust a bit so that had to be removed, it came off quite easily by scrubbing it a little:




Ready to go:




Done:




Final finish, and yes that is our sauna which doubles as a drying cabinet when painting parts:




We also painted the motherboard bracket in same color:



The top is open like that because with it "closed off" it sat too high causing the ports on the motherboard and gpu also to be too high like this:





16. Swapping EK Supremacy Jetplate:


While waiting for the paint to dry I decided to swap the jetplate in my EK Supremacy to the 1mm thick LGA 115X optimized one. Yes, I wen't with nickel plated blocks and I am aware of the problems people have had with EK nickel plating.


Confirming I have the right one:



Installation:











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New Update





Larger and more important update this time, today I'll show you some of the work that was done to the case so the ut60 280 and psu would fit. I still haven't caught up to the actual state of the build but I'm getting closer, there's not much going on with the build right now as I'm waiting for the tubing to arrive.


18. Fabricating the new rear panel:


To be able to mount the 280 radiator the way I intend to, the PSU must be mounted in the top instead. This means that we have to come up with a new rear panel:

(Planned setup, in case you missed it earlier)



The rest of the motherboard plate from the HAF932 that we already used for this builds motherboard mount will once again be used for this. I'll need an L shaped piece like this:




Here we have it cut out:




Test fitting:




Case will have to be cut up a little:




Once again i got some help with the cutting. To be honest it does feel a bit like I'm cheating when I'm not doing all the work myself but when it comes to cutting up a somewhat expensive case I'd rather have someone with a it more expertise do it it, than have a go at it myself and possibly end up with a case split in two and two less fingers on my hands. biggrin.gif
I have tried using the tools myself but I have a hard time cutting in a straight line so for now I'll just stick to the drills and such. I'm also a bit of a perfectionist so I know I wouldn't be satisfied with the result I'd end up with. The ideas however are mostly (like 90%) all mine so i guess I still can take some credit for the metalwork...



19. Fabricating the 280 radiator mount:


I wouldn't be satisifed with having the radiator just sitting on it's side in the case so I had to come with a plan how to make some kind of mounting mechanism to secure it to the case.

Luckily we had already made a custom radiator mount for the front of the modded HAF 932, with radiator mounting holes pre drilled and all, so this would be easy:




Drawing the outlines of the new mount:




Cut out piece. The piece ended up being way floppier than I had thought but luckily it wasn't so bad once I got the radiator screwed on, It ended up being quite sturdy actually:




The floppy nature of the holder reminded me of something else.


Excuse my childish humor tongue.gif


Well uhh, back to the project.
The piece had to get trimmed a little in the corners to make room for the rivets and such keeping the case in piece:



Done:




I planned to secure the mounting plate the same way the Motherboard mount is, with sunken-in screws that is. If I wanted to put the screws through the frame of the case (where the side panel also screws in place) a slit in the double plate up front would have to be cut so the rad mounting plate could reach far enough:


The case has been given one hell of a treatment during this build smile.gif

Done:




Let's see if the mounting plate fits:



It fits! thumb.gif
(The arrows indicate where the screws will go btw)


Screwholes done:




All screwed in, looks quite nice IMO
(The fans are turned that way to protect the exposed motor, I will have both them and the front as intakes to make positive pressure inside the case)




Not a whole lot of space in front of and behind the radiator. I do plan on adding two 120 radiators more up front so we'll see how that goes, but there should be just about enough room for a 30mm rad + 25mm fan with dust filter.





20.Making the PSU mount:


The rear panel clamped in place:




The plan:


First idea of res placement btw. I've since come up with a better idea for pump + res mounting, I actually finished the mount today.


Cut out the old HAF932 PSU mount to provide me with the position of the screws. It ended up getting a bit bent out of shape in the process: biggrin.gif



Managed to straighten it out a bit:




Then I realized the Lian Li case came with one too doh.gif




This will have to get cut out:




The case also had to get trimmed:




All done:




Installed, it looks even better than I had anticipated. I can't imagine what It will look like when it gets painted satin black smile.gif
Although the coolermaster logo sticks out like sore thumb so I will have to do something about that.






21. De-Branding the PSU:


As said previously, the coolermaster logo would have to go and It wouldn't be enough with just removing the little badge from the back so I de-branded it completely. Not that anyone will ever see the branding on the sides, but details like that are important to me.

Cleaned out the dust at the same time:



De-Branding:




Done. It looks much better in my eyes. thumb.gif






22. Test-Fitting the newly fabricated parts:


Painted motherboard tray installed:




Motherboard in, the radiator mount was in the way and had to be removed:




Bracket thing in:



It fits perfectly now that the top part is trimmed away. The ports line up 100% now:





Inside:




Attaching it. The back plate has threaded holes and gets secured with screws that go through the case and the bracket bolts onto the rear plate and case:




Done:






That's all for now. In the next update I'll show you the temporary setup I'm using right now, see you then smile.gif
Edited by iBerggman - 4/26/14 at 8:59am
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very nice update, nice metal work!
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Thanks, I guess smile.gif
But as I said not a whole lot of it is actually my handywork, so yeah.

Also, my tubing has arrived in Helsinki and is ready to be delivered which means I should get it on Monday or at least Tuesday, the postal service here can be a bit slow.
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New Update





Here we go again! One more update after this one and the build log is up to speed with the actual build. My goal was to catch up with the log before the exciting stuff, (meaning water cooling) will go down and it looks like I will be able to make that happen thumb.gif

Anyways, here it is:



23. Switching out the powerbutton:


The old one wasn't as good as I had excpected it to be so I knew I had to replace it, I already had a Phobya vandal-resistant switch so it wasn't a huge project anyways.

Prying out the old switch.
(Not my hands, I needed a "model" to make the picture more alive so to say:




Old switch out:




Needed to make room for the new switch:




Switch all soldered and heatshrinked. The led gets current via a 3 pin fan connector that was salvaged from a 180mm fan I accidentally broke by sticking a screwdriver into it. rolleyes.gif




In with the new: thumb.gif



It looks really good in the dark, although the picture doesn't do it justice at all:





24. Temporary Setup 2:


Couldn't do much more and I really needed to use my pc so I started to together a temporary version of the build.

First I cleaned up my worktable a bit, for some reason I always make a ridiculous mess when I work on my computer. This is where I do all "work", be it homework or modding, I actually have another white ikea table in my room which is my primary computer desk.




Assembled the 120mm Scytches:




Fans in:




Motherboard plate, and rear plate in:



Sadly the megahalems wouldn't fit due to the new PSU mounting so it had to go, but it doesn't really matter afterall this is just a temporary setup until I can setup the water cooling loop. I probably should have replaced the thermal paste earlier as it was all dried up towards the edges of the cpu.
I never thought I'd be happy to still have the bundled intel heatsink left tongue.gif. Cleaned up the old thermal paste and installed the intel cooler:




Motherboard in:




PSU in:



The CPU 8 Pins are a PITA to install with or without the PSU installed. I know I don't need both but cable management is so much easier this way, it's not like I have anywhere to tuck extra cables:




GPU and Soundcard in:



The back does look quite good, will be even better once the exposed aluminium from the cuts gets some paint on it:
The ports on the 670 confuse me, I don't see why the designers thought It'd be smart to put them that high. It's not the bracket that's mis-aligned as the other ports are perfectly in the middle.




Fired it up:




And ran into 2 problems:

1) The CPU temps shot up to over 90C in a few seconds while only in the BIOS. Upon further inspection I noticed that I hadn't tightened the plastic mounting screw thingys enough, it was just hanging on there with 1 of the 4 screws. doh.gif Tightened it up properly and now it idles at around 45C.

2) I carried the PC down to the living room to play on the TV. But when I powered it up the TV didn't get any input via HDMI, the BIOS wouldn't even post on the motherboard "checkpanel". I spent probably around 30min checking the connectors and cables, I even brought the Crossover 27Q but nothing. Eventually I gave up and returned to my room for inspection.

I managed to get it running by clearing the CMOS and since then it has been running fine except for some freezes when I turn off the PC sometimes i the fans keep on spinning. I still don't know what caused the "blackout", I checked all cables and they all seem to be fine. I couldn't fine any loose metal bits that would've caused it to short. A possibility is that the 24 pin is mis-configured, a while ago some pins got loose and I just put them back in, possibly in the wrong order. They were all black (grounding) cables so I don't know what that would do.
Other possibilitys is a dead battery in the mobo or loose metal behind the mobo (perhaps metal shavings from drilling or cutting) but I doubt the latter is the case here. Let me know if you have any thoguhts about this, I still haven't figured this out:


25. Removing the standoffs from the sidepanel:


The standoffs prevented me from attaching the side panel so they had to be cut off:



Like this:





Thanks for checking in!
Next update I'll show you the PUMP + RES mount. I'm actually quite proud of coming up with the idea for that one. smile.gif
Edited by iBerggman - 4/26/14 at 5:09pm
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You (and your helper) sure are doing a lot of custom mods in this build... I likey! thumb.gif
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Thanks, It's been great fun as well! smile.gif
The metalwork is almost done (still something I'll show in the next update), except for some minor things like two holes that need to be cut in the back for possible future external radiator(s), so from now on it's all me although I might need a helping hand at some point you know how it is.

I should have the next update up later today and then the build log is updated to the builds current state, it's been behind since the beginning so it's great to finally catch up. If all goes well I should have all water cooling gear here early next week, well except for the 120 radiators that I haven't even ordered yet, so I should be able to get started on the loop soon. wheee.gif
Edited by iBerggman - 4/30/14 at 9:52am
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