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So I got my rig built about 3 months ago and it has been great ever since. The only game I really play is BF3.

I wanted to get BF4 for a while and saw it on Amazon for $29.99 today and scooped it up. (Currently downloading in Origin, 600kb/s FTW rolleyes.gif)

Depending on how well my 560ti can play it, I will probably want to upgrade. My price range is ~$170 and the only thing I see worth while is the R9 270. I would like to go AMD route as my motherboard supports Crossfire and could be a possible upgrade in the future.

After thinking about this though, I remembered the 8xx series is coming out sometime. Would this new series lower any AMD prices, or any Nvidia prices to get me a better card? I wouldn't mind waiting a few months if it would get be a better deal.

So, is there anything (new or used) that would be a better buy than the 270? Or should I wait?

I have scoured the interweb for a definitive answer on whether I will see a serious bottleneck on running crossfire with X16 and X4 speed 2.0 slots. In FPS comparisons, it didn't seem to make much of a difference, but people who have done it, report some stuttering.
Any thoughts on this?
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I would look at a used 7870 xt Tahiti core. You can find these going for around $160 on eBay and can be crossfired with HD 7950, 7970, R9 280 and 280x. I picked up 2 myself for $160 each with shipping on eBay in the past couple of weeks.
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Originally Posted by gunzkevin1 View Post

So I got my rig built about 3 months ago and it has been great ever since. The only game I really play is BF3.

I wanted to get BF4 for a while and saw it on Amazon for $29.99 today and scooped it up. (Currently downloading in Origin, 600kb/s FTW rolleyes.gif)

Depending on how well my 560ti can play it, I will probably want to upgrade. My price range is ~$170 and the only thing I see worth while is the R9 270. I would like to go AMD route as my motherboard supports Crossfire and could be a possible upgrade in the future.

After thinking about this though, I remembered the 8xx series is coming out sometime. Would this new series lower any AMD prices, or any Nvidia prices to get me a better card? I wouldn't mind waiting a few months if it would get be a better deal.

So, is there anything (new or used) that would be a better buy than the 270? Or should I wait?

I have scoured the interweb for a definitive answer on whether I will see a serious bottleneck on running crossfire with X16 and X4 speed 2.0 slots. In FPS comparisons, it didn't seem to make much of a difference, but people who have done it, report some stuttering.
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wait for the 8XX series. if you can't . . . get a used 7950. with an oc'ed 8300 cpu you should be able to max out both BF3 and BF4 if you are using 1080.

here, compare it to your gpu. a 7950 oc'ed to 7970 GHz speeds @ 1100 core . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7288276

edit: btw, i won't recommend using that X4 slot. ALSO, if you're still using that capstone, then it is just enuf for the cpu and a single 7950 both oc'ed.
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I would look at a used 7870 xt Tahiti core. You can find these going for around $160 on eBay and can be crossfired with HD 7950, 7970, R9 280 and 280x. I picked up 2 myself for $160 each with shipping on eBay in the past couple of weeks.

Well isn't the r9 270 a re branded 7870? A lot of the 270's are going for around 169.99 or 179.99.

Wouldn't it be better to buy new in this case and have a new card with a fresh warranty? I would rather my card not have possibly been run in a mining rig 24//7 at 70c 100% load for a year.

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wait for the 8XX series. if you can't . . . get a used 7950. with an oc'ed 8300 cpu you should be able to max out both BF3 and BF4 if you are using 1080.

here, compare it to your gpu. a 7950 oc'ed to 7970 GHz speeds @ 1100 core . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7288276

From a quick search, 7950's are going for around $200+ from what I saw. A little more than I would like to spend.

Would the 8xx series bring down costs of all graphics cards, regardless of make? (AMD and NVidia)
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Well isn't the r9 270 a re branded 7870? A lot of the 270's are going for around 169.99 or 179.99.

Wouldn't it be better to buy new in this case and have a new card with a fresh warranty? I would rather my card not have possibly been run in a mining rig 24//7 at 70c 100% load for a year.
From a quick search, 7950's are going for around $200+ from what I saw. A little more than I would like to spend.

Would the 8xx series bring down costs of all graphics cards, regardless of make? (AMD and NVidia)

They are not the same other than the name.The 270's are Pitcairn GPU with 1280 shaders. The 7870 Tahiti LE are Tahiti GPU (same as 7950, 7970, 280 and 280x) with 1536 shaders. A 7870 XT can't crossfire with a standard 7870 Pitcairn card or R9 270 series but can with a 7950, 7970 or R9 280 series. It can also on average be overclocked to the same level or even surpass a 7950 or R9 280 at stock clocks.
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They are not the same other than the name.The 270's are Pitcairn GPU with 1280 shaders. The 7870 Tahiti LE are Tahiti GPU (same as 7950, 7970, 280 and 280x) with 1536 shaders. A 7870 XT can't crossfire with a standard 7870 Pitcairn card or R9 270 series but can with a 7950, 7970 or R9 280 series. It can also on average be overclocked to the same level or even surpass a 7950 or R9 280 at stock clocks.

Oh ok, the XT was the thing I was missing.
Yeah, seems like a good deal if I can get one for around ~190.


Well I just played BF4 for a while, and it played surprisingly well. I left it to auto since I just wanted to see the game before bed and on every map it was perfect, 50fps+.
I think the settings were mostly high with some filtering off, and 1080.
I may just hold off on the GPU until the 8xx series come out, and will hopefully lower prices even more.
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