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I currently have a Caselabs Case, water cooled PC with a GTX 780 Hydro and 2600k. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Now I want to do something a little different.
I want to build in a computer in a TV stand, below is the area I have to work with: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I would like to stay within the 15" high, 22" wide area. It is about 24" deep so I am not worried about that, the biggest problem I see is the 15" height as I want to keep my Sony audio player in place.
I have been on this forum for a few years and would like some feed back. I want to build a computer in this area that will stream video to my TV, play audio, player Blu-Rays, and stream surveillance video 24/7 over my network. This will not be used for gaming and will not be overclockedm as it will be on 24/7. Since it will be in my family room, I wanted to water cool the PC to keep it dead silent. I also need to run a 100ft DVI cable to another screen in my office, not sure if this affects my video card choice or if it is even possible to run it 100ft without issues.
I currently only have the harddrive for my build, a Western Digital 4 TB WD Red

I understand I do not need top-of-line parts but I do like to over build. I considered upgrading my current PC and using my current parts for this build but I believe my 2600k OC is still viable and not worth upgrading.

I need help reviewing my build keeping the above information in mind, and also ideas for a case or how to build the PC in the given area. Ultimately, I wanted to do a case with a full side window to view the water res, tubing, lights, etc, but finding a case that is 15"x22" is no easy task. I was also thinking about making it on a nice piece of wood and making it a complete DIY project but would rather have a case...

Computer:
Processor: i5-3470 Quad 3.2Ghz vs Intel Core i5-3570K
Leaning toward the non-K as I do not want to OC the processor, it will need to be on 24/7. But I did want a quad core processor.

Motherboard:
ASUS P8B75-M/CSM vs Asus P8Z77-V LK
Not sure on this one... I may go withe the Micro as the Z77 would be only if I get the 3570K. But as I said before, I will not be overclocking because it will need to be on 24/7 and I do not want to worry about having a sable clock.


RAM:
Corsair 8GB 1600

PSU:
Corsair 500w vs Corsair 600w Modular
I'm thinking the 500w should be enough?

Fan Controller:
Not sure.

Graphics Card:
EVGA GeForce 8400 vs EVGA GTX 750Ti
Not sure what kind of graphics card I would be needing. I am not sure how loud the 750ti would be, I do not plan to water cool the graphics card.
No games, only video streaming in 1080p and 100ft DVI cable run.

Case:
I am not able to find one with a side window with a 15" x 22" footprint.

Blu-Ray:
Asus Read/Write Blu-Ray
Play blu-rays, also burns, why not.

DVI 100ft:
Tripp Lite

Water Cooling
Water Pump:
Koolance PMP-450
Great pump.

Tubing:
Primochill Blue Tubing

Fittings:
Compression Fittings

Res:
Bitspower Water Tank
Maybe a helix would be cooler?

CPU Block:
XSPC Raystorm CPU
Are these still the best blocks? They were when I made my current PC...

Rad:
Black Ice SR1

Fans:
Corsair AF120
As the AP-15s are disappearing, I read good reviews about these Corsairs.
Edited by dseg - 4/13/14 at 6:50am
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post #2 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by dseg View Post

I currently have a Caselabs Case, water cooled PC with a GTX 780 Hydro and 2600k. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Now I want to do something a little different.
I want to build in a computer in a TV stand, below is the area I have to work with: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I would like to stay within the 15" high, 22" wide area. It is about 24" deep so I am not worried about that, the biggest problem I see is the 15" height as I want to keep my Sony audio player in place.
I have been on this forum for a few years and would like some feed back. I want to build a computer in this area that will stream video to my TV, play audio, player Blu-Rays, and stream surveillance video 24/7 over my network. This will not be used for gaming and will not be overclockedm as it will be on 24/7. Since it will be in my family room, I wanted to water cool the PC to keep it dead silent. I also need to run a 100ft DVI cable to another screen in my office, not sure if this affects my video card choice or if it is even possible to run it 100ft without issues.
I currently only have the harddrive for my build, a Western Digital 4 TB WD Red

I understand I do not need top-of-line parts but I do like to over build. I considered upgrading my current PC and using my current parts for this build but I believe my 2600k OC is still viable and not worth upgrading.

I need help reviewing my build keeping the above information in mind, and also ideas for a case or how to build the PC in the given area. Ultimately, I wanted to do a case with a full side window to view the water res, tubing, lights, etc, but finding a case that is 15"x22" is no easy task. I was also thinking about making it on a nice piece of wood and making it a complete DIY project but would rather have a case...

Computer:
Processor: i5-3470 Quad 3.2Ghz vs Intel Core i5-3570K
Leaning toward the non-K as I do not want to OC the process, it will need to be on 24/7. I also wanted a quad core processor.

Motherboard:
ASUS P8B75-M/CSM vs Asus P8Z77-V LK
Not sure on this one...


RAM:
Corsair 8GB 1600

PSU:
Corsair 500w vs Corsair 600w Modular
I'm thinking the 500w should be enough?

Fan Controller:
Not sure.

Graphics Card:
EVGA GeForce 8400 vs EVGA GTX 750Ti
Not sure what kind of graphics card I would be needing. I am not sure how loud the 750ti would be, I do not plan to water cool the graphics card.
No games, only video streaming in 1080p and 100ft DVI cable run.

Case:
I am not able to find one with a side window with a 15" x 22" footprint.

Blu-Ray:
Asus Read/Write Blu-Ray
Play blu-rays, also burns, why not.

DVI 100ft:
Tripp Lite

Water Cooling
Water Pump:
Koolance PMP-450
Great pump.

Tubing:
Primochill Blue Tubing

Fittings:
Compression Fittings

Res:
Bitspower Water Tank
Maybe a helix would be cooler?

CPU Block:
XSPC Raystorm CPU
Are these still the best blocks? They were when I made my current PC...

Rad:
Black Ice SR1

Fans:
Corsair AF120
As the AP-15s are disappearing, I read good reviews about these Corsairs.

 

I'm confused: if you think the 2600K is not worth upgrading, then why are you looking at a new CPU and new motherboard?

 

Also, if you're going to be leaving this on 24/7, then I want you to have a high-quality PSU. For $69.99 shipped at Amazon.com, you can get the 450W Rosewill CAPSTONE Modular Cable Version Series (the 450-M):

 

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-CAPSTONE-Certified-Modular-CAPSTONE-450-M/dp/B0081XXIHK

 

It's way more than enough for this build.

 

As for the video card: yeah, the 750 Ti would smoke the 8400 GS. Omg. It would grind it into powder and then it would laugh at how extremely effortless it was to do so.

 

That's all I am able to help with. :/

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I think this is the kind of case your going to need....ITX mobo/case. Your primary concern is dimensions it seems, its going to come down to itx and its still tough. With a more self contained water cooling setup like the swiftech h220 or apogee drive 2 and a swiftech microrez it should help make it simple. Here are some case ideas:

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/obsidian-series-250d-mini-itx-pc-case

or this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811205012

-
or less water friendly it seems
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GF9801
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I'm confused: if you think the 2600K is not worth upgrading, then why are you looking at a new CPU and new motherboard?

Also, if you're going to be leaving this on 24/7, then I want you to have a high-quality PSU. For $69.99 shipped at Amazon.com, you can get the 450W Rosewill CAPSTONE Modular Cable Version Series (the 450-M):

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-CAPSTONE-Certified-Modular-CAPSTONE-450-M/dp/B0081XXIHK

It's way more than enough for this build.

As for the video card: yeah, the 750 Ti would smoke the 8400 GS. Omg. It would grind it into powder and then it would laugh at how extremely effortless it was to do so.

That's all I am able to help with. :/

Thanks for the feedback, I need a new CPU and mobo for this build. So I will have two computers, not upgrading my current. I was just thinking about updating my current rig so I could use those parts in this build. Are the Corsair not a high-quality PSU?
I was also wondering how loud the 750ti would be with their fans.
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post #5 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66racer View Post

I think this is the kind of case your going to need....ITX mobo/case. Your primary concern is dimensions it seems, its going to come down to itx and its still tough. With a more self contained water cooling setup like the swiftech h220 or apogee drive 2 and a swiftech microrez it should help make it simple. Here are some case ideas:

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/obsidian-series-250d-mini-itx-pc-case

or this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811205012

-
or less water friendly it seems
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GF9801

Man those are some tiny cases lol I might end up having to make my own custom case. I was also looking at an Evga case like the one you linked.
I deffiniately wanted to do my own custom water loop. Not a fan of those pre-mades, the ability to run the tubing and position the res where you want just doesn't compare in regards to appearance.
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Are the Corsair not a high-quality PSU?

Corsair does not make the PSU´s they sell if you dont know already? And Corsair units are not bad (besides the VS) they are just overpriced you can often find just as good or better for less money
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Corsair does not make the PSU´s they sell if you dont know already? And Corsair units are not bad (besides the VS) they are just overpriced you can often find just as good or better for less money

I find corsair cheap. Their product reliability is TERRIBLE.
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I find corsair cheap. Their product reliability is TERRIBLE.

Might have been a bad one off, i had an AX1200 before (yes i know dont say anything about it) and the fan on it made a strange noise but thats about the only complaint i had about it

Would i buy another Corsair PSU for myself or anyone i know or recommend one, No i find you can find better in the same price area
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Thanks guys. I was unaware that Corsair had bad quality PSUs.
Can I get feedback on the processor/mobo/graphics card?
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Originally Posted by dseg View Post

Thanks guys. I was unaware that Corsair had bad quality PSUs.
Can I get feedback on the processor/mobo/graphics card?

Its only the VS thats bad the others are just mediocre and overpriced
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