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Originally Posted by SuperGhost View Post

Hey guys, first post for a long time. Had to create a new account it's been so long!

I just bought this mouse and I have to say I love it. I does indeed support scripting, which I've used to meld the DPI shift and right-click together for FPS. I run at about 3400 DPI most of the time and drop to 2000 on aim (right-click). It's a killer function and raised my headshot count almost instantly.

I have owned a number of "gaming" mice as of late, including the Roccat Kone XTD, which has my favorite 9800 Avago sensor and the G502 is a serious step up, though I still love the Roccat. I have a G500s, which I loved for the button config but couldn't get past the sensor issues.

The G502 has an optimal button layout and it's extremely comfortable. The rubberized parts are in just the right places, the button click feedback is ideal.

I think one thing that should be mentioned is the weight adjustment of this mouse. The base weight is a bit light for my preference, but more importantly, it's VERY evenly balanced. If you're a mouse user like myself, you tend to need a bit more weight toward the right side. Using the included weights and the fact that you can position them in many different ways, it's really easy to fine-tune the balance. I tend to need a little extra weight, ideally, toward the front-right and center and it's easy to do.

I personally love Roccat's mouse software, but I also have a Logitech G710+ and think the G software is solid. The custom options from software on this mouse are on par with the Roccat, though not as robust. I love that they included a sensor calibration and it really works very well.

All in all, favorite mouse ever right now. Great review!

Do you have a tutorial for the DPI Scripting? Would love to lower my ADS sensitivity. Thanks!
post #52 of 422
Hi Ino, thanks for the great review. Have you ever used the Roccat Kone Pure? Would you say this mouse feels more accurate than it? The RCP also has distance control and surface optimization. It's a great mouse but it's a bit small for my hands, and the XTD is way too big. The G502 seems to be just right in size.
post #53 of 422
Great review.

This looks like the perfect mouse for those who like the shape weight and extra buttons. Now I hope they make a smaller, lighter version without compromising on the sensor, switches etc.
post #54 of 422
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Originally Posted by KorbenDallas View Post

Hi Ino, thanks for the great review. Have you ever used the Roccat Kone Pure? Would you say this mouse feels more accurate than it? The RCP also has distance control and surface optimization. It's a great mouse but it's a bit small for my hands, and the XTD is way too big. The G502 seems to be just right in size.

Are you talking about the Kone Pure or Kone Pure Optical? The Pure uses the Avago 9800 laser sensor which has accel. The Optical version uses the Avago 3090. I happen to have both and the G502 sensor blows both away for me. On a side note, the surface analyzer for Roccat only gives you a % of how well it will track on that surface while the G502 calibrates itself to the surface (though it does automatically set it to the lowest LOD possible)Edit: I was wrong, Roccat TDCU is supposed to calibrate though it never worked properly for me. Size wise the G502 is slightly smaller than the XTD (dang thing is huge) so the G502 should be a good size for you though it's really hard to say unless you try it (grip and hold wise).
Edited by Ricey20 - 4/14/14 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by Ricey20 View Post

Are you talking about the Kone Pure or Kone Pure Optical? The Pure uses the Avago 9800 laser sensor which has accel. The Optical version uses the Avago 3090. I happen to have both and the G502 sensor blows both away for me. On a side note, the surface analyzer for Roccat only gives you a % of how well it will track on that surface while the G502 calibrates itself to the surface (though it does automatically set it to the lowest LOD possible). Size wise the G502 is slightly smaller than the XTD (dang thing is huge) so the G502 should be a good size for you though it's really hard to say unless you try it (grip and hold wise).

Hmm interesting thanks for the info! I never noticed acceleration on the Kone Pure laser version, which I have, and the calibration works for me even though you don't move the mouse for the calibration, since I use a completely black Roccat Taito mouse pad. I guess it matters more on mouse pads that have images and stuff? Good to know the G502 lives up to its hype I might buy it just to test difference between acceleration and no acceleration.

By the way, what do you think makes the G502 sensor feels better than the Kone Pure Optical version, since neither have acceleration but both have the distance unit calibration and surface calibration?
post #56 of 422
You guys can pick this up from Best Buy. They started selling it in store when the mouse was revealed at PAX 14. I got mine yesterday.
post #57 of 422
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Originally Posted by KorbenDallas View Post

Hmm interesting thanks for the info! I never noticed acceleration on the Kone Pure laser version, which I have, and the calibration works for me even though you don't move the mouse for the calibration, since I use a completely black Roccat Taito mouse pad. I guess it matters more on mouse pads that have images and stuff? Good to know the G502 lives up to its hype I might buy it just to test difference between acceleration and no acceleration.

By the way, what do you think makes the G502 sensor feels better than the Kone Pure Optical version, since neither have acceleration but both have the distance unit calibration and surface calibration?

Sorry, I was wrong. The Roccat TDCU is supposed to calibrate to the surface though it didn't work well for me. I remember using it on a Razer Scarab and the cursor skipped like mad even after calibration. Also the G502 you can't really change the lift off distance. It's either standard lift off (which is slightly higher than custom)if you choose the default surface profile or the lowest possible if you choose to calibrate to your surface.

As for the sensor differences, I remember my Kone Pure Optical had terrible smoothing and I also had to shut off all LEDs on the mouse or the polling rate became erratic (like a few other mice I've owned). The Avago 3310 in my Avior 7000 was a bit better in the smoothing department (still noticeable though)and I still had to shut off the lighting or polling jumped all over the place. The G502 sensor doesn't feel like it has the smoothing of the 3310 or 3090 to me and feels more responsive because of it.
Edited by Ricey20 - 4/14/14 at 6:10pm
post #58 of 422
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Originally Posted by Ukkooh View Post

Too bad this sensor is propably going to be logitech exclusive for a good while and then razer releases their mice with a little bit tweaked version of it.

What about all the brands that still haven't released their mice with the 3310 sensor, some that aren't even due out until Q3 (Roccat?). This sensor from Logitech has got to be a little bit of a hit to them. They've kind of been one upped here by Logitech coming out with this sensor before they've had a chance to release their new mice. I wonder if it will hurt their sales?

I was also going to ask about rights to the sensor. How does all that stuff normally work? Is Logitech the only one that can use this sensor, or can any brand use it after a certain amount of time? Can other brands get around that if they tweak it, makes changes, and then release a mouse with it right away?
Edited by Ice009 - 4/14/14 at 8:25pm
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Been a while since I've stretched my legs in this section tongue.gif

Great Review, Ino. I'm interested enough to try it - lets see if that tapers off or not, haha. Logitech needs to come forth with another claw grip mouse! /being that guy
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Do you have a tutorial for the DPI Scripting? Would love to lower my ADS sensitivity. Thanks!

Replied in PM.

I used the script at the beginning of this thread: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/Scripting-right-click-to-shift-toggle-dpi/td-p/1116481

Modify the values for SetMouseDPITable to your DPI Shift/Standard values and voila!
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