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I've been running stable at 4.0 since I got my new motherboard, ram, and CPU in July and was thinking of pushing it even further. Can I with a corsair h50? And would it be worth it? I'm pretty sure the most significant upgrade that would give the most noticeable performance gain would be a new graphics card.
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the h50 is not that good cooling wise. I was using it for 3 years and i was disappointed in the end.
Imo save a bit more get at least a h80i if you only have room for 1 120mm radiator.

Best would be a 240mm radiator like a h105i or h100i. There is a lot of other good brand Closed liquid coolers also. I have seen the h100i on sale for around $70 before.

Btw with that CPU you should most likely be able to get at least 4.2ghz at minimum but you never know since you have to get lucky with the CPU lottery biggrin.gif.

With good cooling imo you can expect 4.2-4.6ghz realistically. maybe more if you get a good overclocker.
You have to decide if spending extra money for 0.6ghz is worth it for you. If your answer is yes then go ahead and buy one. If you don't have a lot of money imo just leave it at 4.0ghz and save ur money.
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h50 is low end cooling, but you probably can (edit: that's assuming you already have it - if not, i'd probably suggest buying something else or nothing at all)

check out the haswell overclocking thread/guide with statistics (darkwizzie's thread)
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I've been running stable at 4.0 since I got my new motherboard, ram, and CPU in July and was thinking of pushing it even further. Can I with a corsair h50? And would it be worth it? I'm pretty sure the most significant upgrade that would give the most noticeable performance gain would be a new graphics card.

what ever you do

stay under 75 degrees celsius
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what ever you do

stay under 75 degrees celsius

I hit 75 under full load, so I think I'm good.

I believe I would get better performance gain by upgrading my video card. It is only a 1GB card, and games like Titanfall will fail to load in time & kick me from a match when I set textures to Ultra.
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Here's your current card vs the R9 280x, which is basically a rebranded 7970 ghz as you probably know.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/780?vs=768

Against a 7870, lower clocked R9 270x so you can add a few % to the 7870 but still..

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/780?vs=857

260x slightly better but seems like to much of a side grade to be honest, although depending on game YMMV.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R7_260X/14.html

As you can see a huge improvement with either 270x, or 280x in particular.

Depends on your budget, but going from 4.0 to 4.2 is barely going to make a difference most games aren't CPU limited and a 0.2 increase in clock rate isn't going to do anything much in games IMO. I am assuming you are talking games here of course smile.gif
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Here's your current card vs the R9 280x, which is basically a rebranded 7970 ghz as you probably know.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/780?vs=768

Against a 7870, lower clocked R9 270x so you can add a few % to the 7870 but still..

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/780?vs=857

260x slightly better but seems like to much of a side grade to be honest, although depending on game YMMV.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R7_260X/14.html

As you can see a huge improvement with either 270x, or 280x in particular.

Depends on your budget, but going from 4.0 to 4.2 is barely going to make a difference most games aren't CPU limited and a 0.2 increase in clock rate isn't going to do anything much in games IMO. I am assuming you are talking games here of course smile.gif

Of course. I plan on picking up Watch_Dogs.

This may be off topic, but what is the Nvidia equivelent of the R9 280x, and is it priced similarly? I'd like to switch over to Nvidia because my last three cards have been ATI/AMD.
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280x is roughly equal to a GTX 770, 280 non x is a bit better then a 760 IIRC sorry don't have time to post benchies in a bit of a rush now, Whatever you think of Toms Hardware their GPU hierarchy chart is reasonably accurate as a quick reference

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

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The nvidia cards are more expensive then there counterparts I believe you will have to check pricing at your store of choice, sorry gotta go smile.gif
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Ok now I have a few minutes. Watchdogs recommends for ultra at least a GTX 670/AMD 7970.

Source : http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/03/watch-dogs-pc-specs-revealed-in-full-get-the-list-here/







Source : http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version

This on a 3570k @ 4.4 GHZ so your CPU will be roughly equivalent. Looks like a GTX 760 is the minimum for Titanfall to avoid dropping below 30fps at all, as the R9 280 is slightly faster then the 760 in most cases :

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1033?vs=1038 (7950 boost is the same chip and VRAM as R9280 different clock depending on vendor)

Then I would suggest that 280 is minimum on the AMD side for ultra (Not saying there's not people playing with lesser cards).

On Newegg I see that GTX 760's are going for about $250 and R9 280 are about $300. I had an MSI Twin Frozr 7950 before my current 780 and it overclocked like a champ as did most of them I have heard, I sold it in December during the coin craze for more then I paid for it and got my 780.

If you will overclock then I would personally pay the extra 50 and get an R9 280 to get 280x like performance, if not overclocking I would go GTX 760 and get an EVGA ACX version, as that's what I was recommended on here and I can say I'm very pleased with the cooler and its comforting to know that they have such great customer service as well as the 'Step up' program where you have 3 months when you can pay the difference in case another faster card is released.biggrin.gif.

Of course if you have more to spend then that's up to you, I would avoid the 4GB versions of the 760/770 because IMO it is still unclear whether there is any benefit at all to having double the VRAM on these cards. This is a subject of some debate on here though but you know which way I'm leaning at least.

Also worth bearing in mind that Nvidia are releasing Maxwell 800 series GPU's later in the year last I heard Q3 this year. If you can hang on that long it may be worth it to get more for your money. smile.gif
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Ok now I have a few minutes. Watchdogs recommends for ultra at least a GTX 670/AMD 7970.

Source : http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/03/watch-dogs-pc-specs-revealed-in-full-get-the-list-here/







Source : http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version

This on a 3570k @ 4.4 GHZ so your CPU will be roughly equivalent. Looks like a GTX 760 is the minimum for Titanfall to avoid dropping below 30fps at all, as the R9 280 is slightly faster then the 760 in most cases :

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1033?vs=1038 (7950 boost is the same chip and VRAM as R9280 different clock depending on vendor)

Then I would suggest that 280 is minimum on the AMD side for ultra (Not saying there's not people playing with lesser cards).

On Newegg I see that GTX 760's are going for about $250 and R9 280 are about $300. I had an MSI Twin Frozr 7950 before my current 780 and it overclocked like a champ as did most of them I have heard, I sold it in December during the coin craze for more then I paid for it and got my 780.

If you will overclock then I would personally pay the extra 50 and get an R9 280 to get 280x like performance, if not overclocking I would go GTX 760 and get an EVGA ACX version, as that's what I was recommended on here and I can say I'm very pleased with the cooler and its comforting to know that they have such great customer service as well as the 'Step up' program where you have 3 months when you can pay the difference in case another faster card is released.biggrin.gif.

Of course if you have more to spend then that's up to you, I would avoid the 4GB versions of the 760/770 because IMO it is still unclear whether there is any benefit at all to having double the VRAM on these cards. This is a subject of some debate on here though but you know which way I'm leaning at least.

Also worth bearing in mind that Nvidia are releasing Maxwell 800 series GPU's later in the year last I heard Q3 this year. If you can hang on that long it may be worth it to get more for your money. smile.gif

This was very helpful. The occasional FPS drop I get in Titanfall happens infrequently, so I think I'll wait for Q3 before buying a new card. The prices will have dropped for current cards by then. I don't play on max resolutions because of my eyesight as well (1366x768).
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