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As the thread suggests...

I used to play Everquest 2 for PvP 90% of the time. Sony has ruined it now though with bugs, bad decisions, neglect, and the result is a dwindling PvP community.

Here's what I liked about PvP in eq2 and maybe this will give some suggestions to what else is out there.

1. The AA (alternate advancement,) point system. You could level lock your toon and put all xp to AAs. It took time for a mid-level toon to reach max and could then customize your class for how you like to play. Even end game most high lvl toons didn't have max AA because they rushed it. Sony now offers people with a credit card to be able to buy a high level toon with almost full AAs. This completely had me rage for all the time I invested in getting high AAs on my toons through work and patience. Now any snot-nosed kid with moms credit card can have this.

2. The PvP gear you had to save up for. Three tokens per win in battlegrounds, 1 per loss. Plus quests for tokens to buy gear but it still took a while to get enough for a full set. PvP gear was still decent in pve. Now it takes next to impossibly long to get a full set and only end game toons play now.

3. Battle ground matches like capture the flag, king of the hill-type raids, and hot-potato for points matches. Open world pvp was fun too.

4. Lots of classes to choose from. Combined with AAs, you could have a lot of different toons for your play style.

5. Lots of abilities (skills, button mashing basically.) I like that you can setup tons of skills and macro abilities to create combos with certain abilities that stack. Some toons (illusionist mage for crowd control,) took some skill to play and set up your macros for certain situations...hard class to play but played right was really good at frustrating the enemy and doing DPs.

6. Targeting system. Basically lock on to a toon instead of aiming like a fps.

I looked into The Secret World and like their vast customization as you level as there aren't really any classes...and you can't respec your abilities so you better know what your doing before you even roll the toon.

Wildstar looks cool but too new to tell and I think you can only choose seven abilities at a time to use. Plus, there are only six classes to choose from.

Any suggestions?
Edited by Trace - 4/13/14 at 9:40am
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Im not an expert on MMOs but i've heard elder scrolls online has pretty good PVP
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World of Warcraft has always been a fun PvP game. If you don't have any biases against it, you should really check it out.
Honestly reading through your numbers, i thought you were going to end the post by saying you don't want to play WoW, because it pretty much fits with every bullet you listed.
1. Not this one, nothing like it

2. Instead of tokens, WoW uses Honor points and Conquest points. Honor from random battlegrounds, Conquest from anything rated PvP. More honor for wins, less for losses. Exchance honor/conquest points for armor.

3.Has cap-the-flag type battleground, node defense, tower capture, lots of variety.

4. 11 different classes to choose from, 3 specializations for each that play differently. Warrior, Priest, Mage, Warlock, Death Knight, Hunter, Monk, Rogue, Shaman, Druid, and Paladin.

5. All of that, This is really where WoW shines imho.

6. Lock on, spells and attacks hit your target. No "aiming" for single target stuff.

Try it out, I think you'd like it based on what you're looking for.
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Im not an expert on MMOs but i've heard elder scrolls online has pretty good PVP

Yeah, ESO looks interesting. I honestly don't know enough about it yet. I've heard about the bugs at launch but I'm sure they'll get ironed out. The graphics look great too!
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World of Warcraft has always been a fun PvP game. If you don't have any biases against it, you should really check it out.
Honestly reading through your numbers, i thought you were going to end the post by saying you don't want to play WoW, because it pretty much fits with every bullet you listed.
1. Not this one, nothing like it

2. Instead of tokens, WoW uses Honor points and Conquest points. Honor from random battlegrounds, Conquest from anything rated PvP. More honor for wins, less for losses. Exchance honor/conquest points for armor.

3.Has cap-the-flag type battleground, node defense, tower capture, lots of variety.

4. 11 different classes to choose from, 3 specializations for each that play differently. Warrior, Priest, Mage, Warlock, Death Knight, Hunter, Monk, Rogue, Shaman, Druid, and Paladin.

5. All of that, This is really where WoW shines imho.

6. Lock on, spells and attacks hit your target. No "aiming" for single target stuff.

Try it out, I think you'd like it based on what you're looking for.

Oh man. I realize I should have said something about WoW first before you wrote all this [thanks btw smile.gif]. I know its got a lot of what I like in an mmo for pvp and a huge community but there are several reasons why I can't play WoW.

1. The graphics are too cartoonish for me.

2. 11 classes and only 3 specialties each aren't enough customization options. Plus, I hear you get your specialty points as you level so everyone has the same amount depending on lvl.

3. I feel eq2 is WAY more detailed than WoW and WoW would be a more 'basic' version of what I came from...less complex is perhaps a good way to describe it.

Other from that, the battlegrounds seem fun but I feel like it would have me just being reminded of eq2 and all the things I can't do with my toon frown.gif.
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While there is aiming in Wildstar, it's not a deal breaker in any mmo as I've never tried it. I did read through some pvp forums on Wildstar and it looks like you can earn certain points or abilities that are separate from your level. So while only six classes, there seems to be some areas you can strengthen up in if you put in the hours and this is appealing.

EQ Next shouldn't be too much longer before it is out but there is hardly any info on what its going to be like, especially pvp. Plus, I'm not sold on the anime-type graphics either yet...dunno.
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There's a free trial for WoW if you wanted to give it a shot. While you're right that 11 classes x 3 specs only equals 33 "types" (technically 34, Druid's have 4 specs tongue.gif), each class/spec also has 6 (soon to be 7) Talents chosen every 15 levels that can further differentiate you from your peers. There might not be quite as many options as EQ2, but realistically EQ2 fell into a few cookie-cutter optimum types of characters, didn't it? When you're being honest. All 34 specs in WoW offer you a viable option, and Blizzard works hard trying to keep them as balanced as possible in both PvE and PvP.

Anyways, that's my 2 cent's. I wish you luck in your PvP adventure, and I hope you find something that fulfills all of your hopes!

EDIT: Oh, I just remembered. One of the things the new expansion is doing is overhauling the character's polygon counts and graphics. WoW will still look cartoony, but it is going to get a much-needed graphics facelift. I think the world/environment was more artistic than cartoony (personally) and now the cartoony characters are getting redone to look nicer.
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