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post #11 of 17
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As I said before I don't need a rack I want one. I am taking the same approach that I took when I did my gaming build. That is if I could build whatever I wanted what would it be? Thats how I came to decide on the parts. Then I look at how close can I get to that Build buying parts over time. I buy what I feel is the best motherboard for me with an upgrade path for the CPU. I chose the case because I have about 10TB of media on external hard drives already. At some point I want to get them all on a server. I am tired of reading labels trying figure out which one I need. I will continue to buy hard drives in groups of four till I have enough. I have found in the past when I have settled for less than what I wanted with a build it ended up costing me more money because I go back and add to the build with this build I don't think that will happen. I will use that case for years I may one day have to change out the motherboard or some other part years down the line. This build isn't so much about what I need right now its more about if I want to do it later I can. As I Grow I want my server to be able to grow with me so I am trying to make sure it can. I am willing to wait and save in order to buy higher cost parts to make sure I am happy with the build.

Question 1 - Not Sure what you Mean
Question 2 - I am going to emulate every system thats out so thats 2TB just in PS1 games alone
Question 3 - Might be as many as four or five
Question 4 - What I read so far says its better
Edited by Ryumike - 4/13/14 at 10:18pm
post #12 of 17
In that case, just check eBay/Craigslist for used server rack/chassis.
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post #13 of 17
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I have been just really like that one but you never know what you might come across so I check once a day
post #14 of 17
It sounds like you're off to a good start with your parts build. There are a few things I would keep in mind while assembling it:

- Dual Processor Socket 2011 boards have two sets of memory, with one set connected to the CPU1 and the second set connected to CPU2. Each CPU can make use of Quad Channel RAM for maximum performance. That means "starting out" you need 8 DIMMS - 4 for each processor. Just keep that in mind when buying RAM - 8 DIMMS, and while you're at it - I'd get ECC RAM. The server is going to be on 24x7 and depending on the OS you run, writing out bad data from RAM to disk because you skimped on RAM up front is a bad excuse. =)

- Give some serious thought to the operating system you want to run. If you're Linux/Unix friendly, look at FreeNAS 9 -- it has built-in ZFS support which allows you to build high performance storage without investing in high dollar hardware RAID controllers. Many Freenas users are buying cheap IBM M1015 controllers off eBay, flashing them with LSI IT firmware (freely available) and using them as simple SAS HBAs. If you need more than 8 drives, then simply buy another M1015 and hook up 8 more drives. You'll get better ZFS performance running two controllers than one, as the PCIe x8 interface can't really support 24 drives worth of bandwidth off a single controller.


Rack chassis are cool. If you want one, get it. It will assure you of proper redundant cooling for the processors, RAM, and hard drives, and most chassis also have redundant power supply options. Plus, they look cool. I specialize in SuperMicro chassis for my own data center, and I've never been let down. Norco are decent too, but not up to Supermicro quality in my opinion. They are, however, cheaper.

I've got a Freenas 9 build running in my basement with 8x2TB WD Red drives, 32 GB ECC RAM, and a E5-2630 V2, and I'm pleased as punch with it's performance transcoding with Plex, ZFS management tools, and reporting capabilities. There are a bunch of plugins available for Freenas and all of the common file server protocols (SSH, CIFS/Samba, NFS, RSYNC, etc.) are built-in and well supported.


Greg
post #15 of 17
BTW the memory comment I posted assumes you're actually putting dual processors in that DP motherboard. If you're going with a single processor, then you only need 4 DIMMS to start. You can't use the DIMM slots belonging to the 2nd CPU slot unless a 2nd CPU is installed! I mention this because I've seen some newbie builders install DP motherboards for future expandability, and then load up all of the DIMM slots and wonder why the 2nd bank isn't being recognized.

Greg
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ryumike View Post

Question 1 - Not Sure what you Mean
Question 2 - I am going to emulate every system thats out so thats 2TB just in PS1 games alone
Question 3 - Might be as many as four or five
Question 4 - What I read so far says its better

Servers.... you can build a $100 server.... you can build a $1M+ server.... And that $1M server could still fail at it's purpose. With specialized hardware, you need to clearly define what you need it for.

As best policy, you want to keep storage servers separate from your game servers or other interactive even if by VM. This is to protect the data.

If you want to play on it, it's not really a server...

ECC and 2P are "better".... but may provide you zero benefit. Again, it goes back to your needs.
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Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
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Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
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post #17 of 17
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Thanks for the tip about the ram I didn't know that so I will have to go with 64 gigs cause I want eight gig sticks

I was thinking Free-nas too

Thanks for the tip about the raid controller I am going to have to google that it sounds like a path I would want to take How many control cards can you put in one case ?
I will take a look at the super micro version of the case

Thanks for the feedback Greg
Edited by Ryumike - 4/14/14 at 10:43am
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