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post #11 of 43
Replace your tubing with Primoflex Advanced LRT tubing, clean the loop, add distilled h2o and PT Nuke. If you have any nickle plated parts avoid a silver coil.
post #12 of 43
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Originally Posted by madcratebuilder View Post

Replace your tubing with Primoflex Advanced LRT tubing, clean the loop, add distilled h2o and PT Nuke. If you have any nickle plated parts avoid a silver coil.
Silver doesn't have an effect on Nickel,its the copper which is attacked. Its perfectly fine to use a coil if the plated parts are done correctly.
If he wanted a really good tube then Noprene is the way to go,not LRT.
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post #13 of 43
just use pre mix coolant that are simply too toxic for algea to grow in , so much simpler , even buy some transparent X1 if you want no coloration , but stop trying to play with fire for a fictional perf increase ,...... (our rad,fans and loops in general are so unefficient that it s really not the calorific capapcity of the fluid that will change much )
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post #14 of 43
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Silver doesn't have an effect on Nickel,its the copper which is attacked. Its perfectly fine to use a coil if the plated parts are done correctly.
If he wanted a really good tube then Noprene is the way to go,not LRT.

With several manufacturers not honoring their warranty on nickle plated parts if any type of silver kill coil is used I've stopped using them and I don't recommend them, personal preference. I've used Noprene and still prefer LRT, it seems to give me a better bend radius, again just personal preference. The important thing is to use high quality tubing and compatible metals.

I've been monitoring my loop water chemistry with my water test kit, interesting results in PH ,total alkalinity, calcium hardness and TDS's. After 6 months of monitoring I may learn something. I'm surprised just how fast the distilled h2o changes.
post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post

Silver doesn't have an effect on Nickel,its the copper which is attacked. Its perfectly fine to use a coil if the plated parts are done correctly.
If he wanted a really good tube then Noprene is the way to go,not LRT.

With several manufacturers not honoring their warranty on nickle plated parts if any type of silver kill coil is used I've stopped using them and I don't recommend them, personal preference. I've used Noprene and still prefer LRT, it seems to give me a better bend radius, again just personal preference. The important thing is to use high quality tubing and compatible metals.

I've been monitoring my loop water chemistry with my water test kit, interesting results in PH ,total alkalinity, calcium hardness and TDS's. After 6 months of monitoring I may learn something. I'm surprised just how fast the distilled h2o changes.
DI is even worse,its very ion hungry.

As for the manufacturers,only 1 requires no silver present,that is Koolance. Seeing as most Koolance is leaky junk,im not surprised.
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post #16 of 43
Galvanic corrosion occurs when mixing metals.
Silver is a metal.
I don't understand the desire to adding a new metal to the soup when other non-metallic alternatives exist.

Shops and manufacturers will keep cathering to the consumer's demand.
Stop demanding that new metals be added to your loop for crying out loud!

Same goes.with EK's stainless steel jet plates.
When is anyone at all going to request a plastic, or copper, or brass jet plate?

I want copper plated brass fittings.
Or better yet, bare brass fittings.
Or even plated with anything one the non-wetted parts only.
When am I going to not be all alone on this?

None of this requires a large amount of cost or engineering.
Just basic common sence and.the desire to reduce metals in our loops.
Edited by PepeLapiu - 4/14/14 at 8:52am
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post #17 of 43
You need to add EK to the list
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DI is even worse,its very ion hungry.

As for the manufacturers,only 1 requires no silver present,that is Koolance. Seeing as most Koolance is leaky junk,im not surprised.

DI is ion hungry for the first 48hrs, then not so much.

You need to add EK and XSPC to the no warranty list, your a industry rep, you should know this stuff.

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Galvanic corrosion occurs when mixing metals.
Silver is a metal.
I don't understand the desire to adding a new metal to the soup when other non-metallic alternatives exist.

Shops and manufacturers will keep cathering to the consumer's demand.
Stop demanding that new metals be added to your loop for crying out loud!

Same goes.with EK's stainless steel jet plates.
When is anyone at all going to request a plastic, or copper, or brass jet plate?

I want copper plated brass fittings.
Or better yet, bare brass fittings.
Or even plated with anything one the non-wetted parts only.
When am I going to be all alone on this?

None of this requires a large amount of cost or engineering.
Just basic common sence and.the desire to reduce metals in our loops.

+10

It would be very easy for manufacturers to provide all components in brass and copper. No need for plating other than cosmetic.

These silver coils have about .06 cents worth of silver in them at most, silver is under $20 a troy Oz, and a troy oz make about 310 silver coils.They are a very big profit margin for retailers. $20 worth of silver, 310 coils @ $5 = $1550.00 that's a good deal...for someone.
Edited by madcratebuilder - 4/14/14 at 9:07am
post #18 of 43
I had algae still grow in my loop despite using distilled and dead water. I could see it floating around in the res, took the block apart and got some pics of it. I had put 3 drops of dead water directly into the res when I first filled it. I think the coolant was only about 3 months old at that point.
post #19 of 43
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You need to add EK to the list
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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post

DI is even worse,its very ion hungry.

As for the manufacturers,only 1 requires no silver present,that is Koolance. Seeing as most Koolance is leaky junk,im not surprised.

DI is ion hungry for the first 48hrs, then not so much.

You need to add EK and XSPC to the no warranty list, your a industry rep, you should know this stuff.

I do,please show me where EK say no silver,I have had numerous discussions with EK about this,Niko himself told me that silver is permitted.
There is nothing in XSPCs ToS that says silver is not permitted,when I get back from work I will bring this up with my mate at XSPC to confirm,the joy of having XSPC as a sponsor means I have both the CEO and the UK rep's contacts.

If you are going to call me out then at least be correct.
Edited by B NEGATIVE - 4/14/14 at 9:02am
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post #20 of 43
We do not recommend that you use silver at all in loops but we will honor the warranty regardless. To repeat what B-Neg has said, get your facts straight.

Silver is old tech IMO. There are so many cheap and safer alternatives.

Again, to repeat the facts. We do not recommend using a silver kill coil, we will however honor the warranty even if you do.

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